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4th September 2011, 20:57
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North West
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Car(s): PH2 Peugeot 106 "race" car - Currently in pieces
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Alanapone's Red VTS. Caged, stripped, track toy.
Right, I've been back from TRAX a few hours now and had a good think and ponder over all the awesomeness I saw.
I've decided that I've seen far too many track car builds on here that never come to fruition. The main reason behind this, from what I've seen, is people get bogged down with building a top spec car. I think this is great and I'm in NO WAY trying to take from anyone that wants to do this as it's your personal decision BUT, that fact that many never see the track or never get completed cannot be ignored.
To this end, i've decided I want to see if rather than spending three times as much on just an engine, I can buy, build AND get on track in an okay spec car for the measly sum of ONE THOUSAND POUNDS!
The target budget has only really been set by Rorz_VTS as he has built a lovely looking daily for the same budget. After having a chat with him about his build and some of the interest it has received, I thought it MAY be possible to get a car up to a decent track spec for similar money.
First off. I do have a VTR at the moment but as the shell is in need of some tlc, I may not use this for this project. I may, however, use some of the mods I've fitted to it to save time BUT I will add the prices I paid for the parts to the total.
Ideally, The car will be a VTS with all the most important bits sorted first, then some lightening and maybe some added safety in the form of buckets and a cage.
I'll start looking into what spec I can get for the money while you lot throw some abuse or hopefully some good ideas my way.
Fingers crossed, I also want this project to be completed by December 4th. this gives me exactly 3 months
So, let rip people... ideas for spec, please
Well,
That was the original plan and I completed it quite well I think. The car had gone past its original design spec now and the following is the current spec of the car to wet your appetites and get you to read on.
Alanapone's Track Car Spec:
Engine:
VTS engine,
Catcam 708 camshafts
BMC enclosed induction kit,
Saxsport manifold back system
Raceland 4-2-1 manifold - Heat wrapped,
Braided Fuel Lines with dry break fuel sample point,
3.5bar FPR.
Chassis:
Powerflex ARB bushes,
Powerflex Lower engine mount,
Powerflex Front wishbone bushes,
Vibratechnics Rear wishbone mounts,
Powerflex rear beam bushes,
Rally Designs Coilover conversion,
200lb Springs
Bilstein Grp. N front dampers,
Bilstein B8 rear dampers,
I.M. Axles Oilite rear beam,
OMP 10 point roll cage,
Stitch welded engine bay,
Welded strut top plates,
266mm Brake conversion,
Mintex M1144 front pads,
Internal brake lines and Bias valve,
Slimline, lightweight battery,
OMP upper and lower strut braces,
Interior:
Fully stripped,
Cobra Imola 2 seat,
330mm Suede OMP steering wheel,
Quick Detach steering wheel boss,
106 Flocked door bins,
Carbon door cards,
106 Door levers,
106 Flocked lever surrounds,
Porsche door pulls,
106 lightened and trimmed dash,
Exterior:
Removable front bumper,
Morrette headlight conversion and grille,
106 Carbon covered wing mirrors,
14" wheels with Yokohama A048 tyres,
25mm Custom spacers to suit above,
15" Team Dynamics 1.2's with Michelin and Barum tyres,
25mm spacers to suit above.
Before:
CURRENT:
Last edited by Alanapone; 2nd January 2018 at 21:11.
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4th September 2011, 21:02
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Established Member
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: durham
Posts: 1,160
Car(s): Jetta sport TDI. Saxo vts
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good luck ..
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4th September 2011, 21:04
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Saxperience Forum Bum
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Abermule, Mid Wales.
Posts: 2,763
Car(s): Corsa Rally Car & Fiesta ST
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good luck mate, you could easily do if for a grand
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4th September 2011, 21:06
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Location: Sunderland
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Car(s): Clio Sport 172
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Sounds like a plan mate!
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4th September 2011, 21:13
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Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Cornwall born and bred baby !
Posts: 232
Car(s): First car: Saxo furio (wicked red) ;)
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All the best mate, crack on !
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4th September 2011, 21:16
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Saxperience Hardcore!
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Birtley
Posts: 22,253
Car(s): VTR Turbo, 106 xsi track slag, Transit recovery, B
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if its a track car, you want a cage, one bucket...2 if budget allows, suspension and brakes
a standard vts eginine...even a vtr engine is totally fine on track... should easily do that for 1k
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4th September 2011, 21:34
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West Midlands
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Location: West mids
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you can track a completely standard car dude so can easily get on track and have fun for sub 1k
imo get some bushes on a standard car decent brake fluid and pads braided lines and go from there with like apex kit ect
thats how my old vtr was before i 16vd it and it was good fun to drive
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4th September 2011, 21:37
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Saxperience Hardcore!
Join Date: May 2007
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Car(s): Saxo VTS, Westfield
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Off topic.......Alanpone and your Mrs.........epic couple!!!! Was good meeting you guys.
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4th September 2011, 21:42
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North West
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Warrington, Cheshire
Posts: 5,733
Car(s): PH2 Peugeot 106 "race" car - Currently in pieces
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Cheers for the comments so far guys.
I know you CAN track a standard car but I want to get it as sorted and as solid as possible for that budget just to prove what you can do for little money.
Was good meeting you too James... Hope the hangovers getting better
Missus is called Nic by the way
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4th September 2011, 21:50
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Location: Europe
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I'd get Gaz GHA coil over kit £350 brand new. Wishbone, ARB, rear beam mounts and maybe ball joints, droplinks, track rod ends if they need replacing. Brakes 266 set up with decent pads/discs. Bucket seats new pair or 2nd hand, RallyDesign sell there own RMD seats which are cheap and good for the money from what I've read on RallyeRegs
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4th September 2011, 22:23
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West Midlands
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its all well and good saying you want a solid car
however everyone prefers different things and what one person specs up saying is good you may not like at all and im not saying im an expert but this is all IMO
see how you drive the car and then build that suits you
its took me a very long time to find out how i like my car to handle and now i know this i can spend on the expensive bits for the chassis
i would genuniely go out and enjoy it standard and do small changes and see how they effect the car (yea im a hypocrite but i did it all in odd bits here and there somehow)
lots of the things that are often overlooked imo are some of the best
rear wishbone bushes are a major one
get the suspension actually working in the right directions rather than flapping about and itll keep the car stable under braking ect ect
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oh really.....
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4th September 2011, 22:26
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I think decent suspension, good brakes, semi slicks and bucket seat / harness is all you need to have fun on track
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4th September 2011, 22:47
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Might be do able for a grand. I know i've spent way over that but I had to buy the car to begin with but then I didnt really start with a very good base as about everything that could be fucked on my VTR was!
Decent track tyres will be a hefty part of your budget unless you can get half worns etc on here for cheap
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4th September 2011, 22:53
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Saxperience Hardcore!
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Birtley
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Car(s): VTR Turbo, 106 xsi track slag, Transit recovery, B
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aly has a half cage for sale... be better then not running one, hes asking more then its worth but if you can get him down on price then itll be a cheap budget potential lifesaver
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4th September 2011, 23:05
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Saxperience Post Whore
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Get yourself some decent tyres (Yoko AD08s would be my choice), good brake pads (EBC Yellows would be my choice), then get it on track and enjoy it.
Improve the car over time, as and when you feel necessary imo.
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4th September 2011, 23:36
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Saxperience Forum Bum
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Location: Oxford
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Car(s): '55 Plate C2 VTS
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Dont use the currect VTR, its amazing! No idea why, but something about it just made it a really nice car.
Good luck with the track project
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5th September 2011, 10:53
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do it.
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5th September 2011, 16:37
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Saxperience Post Whore
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Location: wirral
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as said mate easy done few choice mods and your away. Please dont use the vtr for it tho mate as its a f'ing lovely car just go buy a cheap vts and go from there
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5th September 2011, 16:46
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Saxperience Post Whore
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Car(s): Amazon green VTR 16v, Inferno RS clio 182
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It can be done, I saw a track prepped VTR on ebay a few months back for £700. Buckets, Harnesses, track pads, Ok ish rubber and stripped out but it didnt have a cage. As you are pretty well known on here I'd think that'd help you get mates rates on a car/parts
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5th September 2011, 16:47
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Saxperience Hardcore!
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Buy a diesel!!!!!!!!!
Economic track days are the way forward
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