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Old 14th February 2012, 23:46   #121
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minimum????

you mean it still go bouncing whith 400??
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Old 14th February 2012, 23:56   #122
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you mean it still go bouncing whith 400??
Trial and error with suspension setups.. People can suggest an estimate then you need to refine it yourself. No such things as a perfect setup. On a race grid full of the same cara with the same specs there won't be any with the same geo setup as another.

I'd start at 400lb and go from there.

What we could all benefit from is a proper bladed anti-roll bar. This would provide adjustability that standard cars don't have, unfortunately no such thing exists for our cars that I know of.
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Old 14th February 2012, 23:58   #123
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what you mean bladed arb?? rear?
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Old 15th February 2012, 00:02   #124
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what you mean bladed arb?? rear?
On race cars you can get an anti roll bar then at either end it has a blade/knife like part, this can then be twisted to produce difference levels of stiffness. Very difficult to explain on here..

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ill do it.

i was asking dave_p were to get the big rear arb like 25mm

any gess?
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25mm rear arb was available from pugsport.
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Pugsport dont make torsion bars anymore do they, dont think they do ARBs either.

Spoox do and IM Axles produce the 25mm though.
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The blade type roll bars utilise a thin "blade" in place of the tube section on one end of the bar. This blade can be rotated so that the force is applied to the blade at varying angles. When the blade is flat (say 0 degrees) then it will flex quite easily. on edge (90 degrees) it will be very stiff and will not bend easily. so you essentially get an infinitely adjustable (within it's range) arb
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Old 3rd March 2012, 00:36   #129
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hello back to coilovers again ...i ve received the new setup ..here some fotos.
i realy hope this time they can be caled a circuit suspencion...maybe 18 march ill test .




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hi..

so the shocks are in the car again whith the new top mounts.
iz instal, no big problems to fit.

strange, but the car stayed at the same high even whith shorter springs
but now aparently is ALOT stifer at front and alot more stifer at the rear end also.





also no problem on top mount nut being short???
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Old 18th March 2012, 21:00   #131
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ok it solved...

after almost a year trying to find a winer set up ...i think i start to have a clue..

so test today and i can thanks to mr Paulo for building this shocks and turned into circuit mods , thanks Miguel from DIFERSPORT !! we builds a strong fiable and cost wise engine and box.

and VITO from MECANOSPORT helping sep chassis so strong.


the car is suberb... its a unbetable track saxo.

it was the fast saxo in almost 20 cars. kiled alot off hondas...


today im very very happy!!!!
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