Need some help with diet? - Saxperience

SaxoSam96 · 21st February 2010, 10:55

Hi,
Been using Whey protein for a while, but been making the big mistake of having a shit diet so have been getting shit gains.

I'm going to start using creatine and have read you need a decent diet for it to take its role in the body.

Can anyone suggest WHAT to eat exactly?
I'm not too picky, just need a simple description of what i need and when i need it.

Any help is much appreciated

Thanks,
Sam

Craddock · 21st February 2010, 12:29

Have the Creatine Cycle with protein shakes.

You want to have around 5/6 smaller meals a day.

Example would day would be..

9AM - Brown Bread and Boiled Eggs
10:30AM - Banana and Protein Shake
1:00pm - Tuna Sandwich (brown bread)
2:30pm - Greek Yogurt and a handful of nuts
5:00pm - Chicken Stir Fry
6:55pm - Protein Shake
7:00pm - Gym Session
8:00pm - Protein Shake
10:00pm - Porridge

You want loads of protein and no fat.

Eggs, (Boiled, Scrambled, Omelets, Poached)
Bread - Brown
Porridge Oats
Tuna, Fish, Chicken, Turkey (all high in protein - asda have a full chicken for £2)
Brown Paste
Brown Rice

Obviously no beer, no takeaways.

SaxoSam96 · 21st February 2010, 13:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by Craddock

Have the Creatine Cycle with protein shakes.

You want to have around 5/6 smaller meals a day.

Example would day would be..

9AM - Brown Bread and Boiled Eggs
10:30AM - Banana and Protein Shake
1:00pm - Tuna Sandwich (brown bread)
2:30pm - Greek Yogurt and a handful of nuts
5:00pm - Chicken Stir Fry
6:55pm - Protein Shake
7:00pm - Gym Session
8:00pm - Protein Shake
10:00pm - Porridge

You want loads of protein and no fat.

Eggs, (Boiled, Scrambled, Omelets, Poached)
Bread - Brown
Porridge Oats
Tuna, Fish, Chicken, Turkey (all high in protein - asda have a full chicken for £2)
Brown Paste
Brown Rice

Obviously no beer, no takeaways.

That's brilliant.
Thannks.

So mix the Creatine with my protein shakes?
Also should i lay off creatine every 6 weeks for 2 weeks ?

admad · 21st February 2010, 15:01

i wouldnt say no fat

fat is avery important part of a balanced diet

thats good fats not saturated fat(oily fish is excellent for good fats as well as nuts)

666saxo666 · 21st February 2010, 16:19

my boxing coach says it dont matter what you eat and diets are a pile of poo

its about how you train not what you eat. And he is mahoosive

eat what you want but take supplements. i eat what i want, but have 3 shakes a day, n 3 ethyl ester tablets before and 3 after a work out. ( usian bolt eats pure chicken nuggets during training )
people will go on a diet when they train n think there is a difference cos of the diet, but it will be because of the training.

666saxo666 · 21st February 2010, 16:22

btw.. im not sayin eat shit all day long, but just not to necessarily 'diet'...

willo-1 · 21st February 2010, 16:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by 666saxo666

my boxing coach says it dont matter what you eat and diets are a pile of poo

its about how you train not what you eat. And he is mahoosive

eat what you want but take supplements. i eat what i want, but have 3 shakes a day, n 3 ethyl ester tablets before and 3 after a work out. ( usian bolt eats pure chicken nuggets during training )
people will go on a diet when they train n think there is a difference cos of the diet, but it will be because of the training.

This is true i used to do boxing, then went on to heavy weights ect i was 17stone 8 ...& ate what i wanted i trained for 2hours a day in my prime but now im older its less frequent and my weight is 16-8 supplements are ok if you need a quick fix but me ive never rated them Creatine liquid is recomnded i hated the powder as the old saying goes train don,t strain gym,s hate a show off..............

Ryan^p · 21st February 2010, 18:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by 666saxo666

my boxing coach says it dont matter what you eat and diets are a pile of poo

its about how you train not what you eat. And he is mahoosive

eat what you want but take supplements. i eat what i want, but have 3 shakes a day, n 3 ethyl ester tablets before and 3 after a work out. ( usian bolt eats pure chicken nuggets during training )
people will go on a diet when they train n think there is a difference cos of the diet, but it will be because of the training.

Sorry but the body needs the right fuel. Its ok saying ea what you want but if you are not eating the correct fuels for training you wont see the correct gains. This is how people end up with problems such as lack of energy and slow recovery times.

Dieting isnt difficult, but just eating anything and not taking into account things isnt the right way to deal with it. People seem to think that the word diet is eatting salad. Diet is the scientific term for what you eat, so even eating shit you are still part of a diet, that is just your own individual one

Supplimentation also is just that it shouldnt be used as the diet itself, they are also more expensive than eating correctly

Bolt doesnt just eat nuggets btw

Leooo · 21st February 2010, 21:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by 666saxo666

my boxing coach says it dont matter what you eat and diets are a pile of poo

its about how you train not what you eat. And he is mahoosive

eat what you want but take supplements. i eat what i want, but have 3 shakes a day, n 3 ethyl ester tablets before and 3 after a work out. ( usian bolt eats pure chicken nuggets during training )
people will go on a diet when they train n think there is a difference cos of the diet, but it will be because of the training.

Sort of agree & disagree with that at the same time. Boxing training is hardcore when done properly, so you could get away with eating whatever and still look good. But if you ate a good diet and still boxed, you would look/be even better.

Suppose it depends on how serious you are about it too, most boxing clubs are ran by either has-beens or wannabe pros, who train you THEIR way so they feel like they are the champ. You will never find any professional boxer who doesn't follow a strict diet.

Craddock · 21st February 2010, 21:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by admad

i wouldnt say no fat

fat is avery important part of a balanced diet

thats good fats not saturated fat(oily fish is excellent for good fats as well as nuts)

I meant no fat as in cheese, crisps, cooking oil, chips, etc...
Unwanted fats.

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So mix the Creatine with my protein shakes?
Also should i lay off creatine every 6 weeks for 2 weeks ?

You can mix your creatine and protein together, i dont though.
I have a 4 week break with my creatine.

Leooo · 22nd February 2010, 09:56

That days food posted looks good though

ds3 · 25th February 2010, 19:27

Eat protein rich food like dal.take food in time.dont eat chicken.

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Craddock · 25th February 2010, 22:29

Why don't eat Chicken?

admad · 26th February 2010, 21:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ryan

Sorry but the body needs the right fuel. Its ok saying ea what you want but if you are not eating the correct fuels for training you wont see the correct gains. This is how people end up with problems such as lack of energy and slow recovery times.

Dieting isnt difficult, but just eating anything and not taking into account things isnt the right way to deal with it. People seem to think that the word diet is eatting salad. Diet is the scientific term for what you eat, so even eating shit you are still part of a diet, that is just your own individual one

Supplimentation also is just that it shouldnt be used as the diet itself, they are also more expensive than eating correctly

Bolt doesnt just eat nuggets btw

glad you wrote that it annoys me so much when people ask what i eat and i say im on a clean bulk diet, then they turn round and say how do you have the energy eating salad? lol