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Old 27th February 2018, 10:04   #1
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I have a Citroen Saxo VTR 1,6 8v I have made for road rally, but i have an engine problem which i cant find the reason for.

When the engine is at operating temperature according to the car it will start RPM jumping from around 600-900 rpm and is close to stalling.

It's only when the engine is at operation temperature, and not when its cold. The fan blower is always at max when it happends.

I have tryed changing air filter, oil, oilfilter, timingbelt, waterpump, thermostat, charging battery and so on..

Any ideas where to look and what to try?
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Old 27th February 2018, 11:25   #2
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Idle control valve.
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Old 5th March 2018, 08:11   #3
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Idle control valve.
Anyone knows where this is located and how to change/clean it?
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Old 5th March 2018, 11:48   #4
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There are dozens of threads coming up when using the search function and typing "idle control valve"
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Old 5th March 2018, 11:49   #5
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On the throttle body, black thing held in by two bolts.

I tried cleaning, taking it apart, replaceing the spring etc but nothing fixed it. Bought a new one in the end.

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Old 6th March 2018, 06:48   #6
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I found i can buy a new fancy one,

But some ICV is priced around 150€ and some around 10€?
What is the difference, anyone knows? and which one should i buy?

Topran ICV:
Pierburg ICV:
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Yep the cheap one is rubbish.
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Can you/or anyone other recommend which one to buy? And any experience with some?
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Citroen main dealer(if they still stock them)
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Old 8th March 2018, 06:41   #10
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Citroen main dealer(if they still stock them)
They dont locally so thats why im looking for an aftermarket, but thanks
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I've ran the aftermarket £10 ones for a few months without issue but eventually replaced it with an OEM peugeot one.
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I've ran the aftermarket £10 ones for a few months without issue but eventually replaced it with an OEM peugeot one.
do you remember which brand? and did it work well?
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Old 9th March 2018, 10:26   #13
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http://www.saxperience.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=174710

Can't remember for the life of me, I went through my ebay and amazon purchase history and couldn't find it. I was just a cheap one around £10 that had a two year warranty.
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No images on that thread.. And i think its located differently on a mk2 VTR?

Ok thanks
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Changed the ICV with no results.. Any idea where to look next?
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Changed the ICV with no results.. Any idea where to look next?
Have you tried cleaning the throttle body?
Maybe it could be the lambda sensor?
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Old 19th March 2018, 09:48   #17
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Yes i have cleaned it a little bit, doesn't seem to solve anything.
I have no clue where to look, but it is only when the car is above 90'C..
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MAP sensor? It's hard to diagnose over the internet tbh. Did you check your valve lash/clearances? It's a 15 minute job.
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