relocating power steering pump - Page 2 - Saxperience

AlexB^p · 13th January 2011, 17:14

Or just dont run pas i never did on my old diablo 106 or my posi saxo

Bedford126 · 13th January 2011, 17:22

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Originally Posted by AlexB

Or just dont run pas i never did on my old diablo 106 or my posi saxo

I don't run pas in my ek9 and the saxo and both cars feel less twitchy and more responsive on track as well as on the road. Imo it should be the first mod undertaken on a saxo with a track set up.

Saaamon · 13th January 2011, 18:02

Just bin it, way to much hassle to move.

mark1311 · 13th January 2011, 18:47

i no there powersteering and the non power steering rack are different, could/is it possible to just plug off the power steering one? i.e theres to points on the rack that hoses go to for fluid to go in and out can i just black it off? or shud i just get a new rack?

JoshB · 13th January 2011, 19:00

The non-pas rack is a lot "quicker", if you get what I mean. Plus you need to remove the pump and all the plumbing , otherwise you work the pump as well when you steer.

mark1311 · 13th January 2011, 19:06

yer i get what you mean, neva used a saxo with no pass. so wheres best place to get one?

JoshB · 13th January 2011, 19:11

mandyslover told me to PM him in a couple of months, says he usually has some in. Just check round some local scrappers.

A mate of mine once had a 1.1 without power steering as a courtesy car when his VTR was being repaired, it was about 8 years ago mind! But I remember it being not much different due to the light weight, just a bit stiffer when stood.
I had a bash in Nij's saxo once who's pump had packed in and was like trying to steer a tank!

mark1311 · 13th January 2011, 19:13

ok cheers i have him a pm see what he says.

Bedford126 · 13th January 2011, 19:26

you cant just get the rack mate you need the 1.1 pedal box and the 1.1 steering column as there all different to the vtr/vts. your best bet is to remove your pas rack and strip it of all the pas equipment and block the holes with steel caps without the caps covering the holes the car will/can fail the mot depending on the bloke who does the test.

the pas has faster gearing so is better for track use and easier on the arms when stripped and pump removed that is.

JoshB · 13th January 2011, 19:29

Whats a pedal box? I know what they are in motorsport terms, but what is it on a day to day car?

Mochachino · 13th January 2011, 19:29

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Originally Posted by bedford126

you cant just get the rack mate you need the 1.1 pedal box and the 1.1 steering column as there all different to the vtr/vts. your best bet is to remove your pas rack and strip it of all the pas equipment and block the holes with steel caps without the caps covering the holes the car will/can fail the mot depending on the bloke who does the test.

as said though her pas has faster gearing so is better for track use and easier on the arms.

Yup Yup. Cant just bung a non PAS rack in, need column and pedal box. Learnt from my mistakes, ive just installed another PAS rack with it all drained. Need to bung it up with some bolts or caps now.

PAS rack is quicker than a nonPAS too. Think the AX GT has a quicker rack or something, almost similar to the quaife quick racks though not 100% on that!

JoshB · 13th January 2011, 19:30

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Originally Posted by db_sax

PAS rack is quicker than a nonPAS too.

Are you sure? I thought it was the other way around?

Mochachino · 13th January 2011, 19:32

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Originally Posted by JoshB

Are you sure? I thought it was the other way around?

I did too, untill I found out the non PAS one is lol

waste of time me taking my PAS rack out weighing it in to buy a refurbed nonpas to then buy another pas rack lol

Bedford126 · 13th January 2011, 19:33

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Originally Posted by JoshB

Whats a pedal box? I know what they are in motorsport terms, but what is it on a day to day car?

pedal box is just a sort of metal cage that all the pedals bolt onto there different on a 1.1 i think its a different shape or the hole in it is different iirc. just not worth the hassle and the pas rack is a better rack once made non pas.

pedal box-------

http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w...ofPedalBox.jpg

mark1311 · 13th January 2011, 19:36

do i just need to basicali drain it of fluid and anything to do with the pipes for pass then bing it up?

Mochachino · 13th January 2011, 19:37

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Originally Posted by mark1311

do i just need to basicali drain it of fluid and anything to do with the pipes for pass then bing it up?

Yep! Leave the ram on there still though.

Bedford126 · 13th January 2011, 19:39

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Originally Posted by mark1311

do i just need to basicali drain it of fluid and anything to do with the pipes for pass then bing it up?

yes mate that's how I did my mate's some people say to remove a ram inside? i found that didn't need to do this as the ram isn't doing anything once there is no fluid in it any way's.

Mochachino · 13th January 2011, 19:40

In fact I took a pic the other day when I refitted my PAS rack without the PAS bits:

mark1311 · 13th January 2011, 19:42

sweet looks exaclty same as myn atm, job for tomora with all the other shit to do... run times,

AlexB^p · 13th January 2011, 21:59

I just blanked my pas rack swapping everything isnt really worth all the effort unless its allready off tbh