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Old 22nd January 2012, 19:11   #21
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Old 3rd March 2012, 18:48   #22
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Saxo VTS competely standard! not bad for a 12yr old car
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Old 22nd March 2012, 15:08   #25
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Rs tuning - Leeds - Dyno Dynamics - (Without P&P TB)
144.1 bhp
117.9 whp
18.39% T/loss


Northampton Motorsport - Northampton - Superflow (before & after P&P TB)
151bhp


Revlimit is 7750 the last run on the NMS graph revved over for some reason but it didnt effect the power, if anyone can explain that id love to know!

Surrey Rolling Road - Surrey - Dyno Dynamics
141.3 bhp
115.6 whp
18.19% T/Loss
If there's been no changes to the car it's interesting to see a 10hp difference from the NMS rollers to the Surrey ones. Especially considering some claim NMS are a hard roller to see power on.
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Old 22nd March 2012, 15:13   #26
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I think if you got the WHP from northampton Motorsport then there would be less difference?


Btw I'll have a new graph to put up soon hopefully. got my forged engine in and the car will be remapped and boost upped soon
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Old 22nd March 2012, 15:20   #27
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Wasn't it pauls old gti which made big power on their rollers without really anything done?

I've got a graph from mine had the map tweaked in August somewhere. Certainly made more than the 170 people said it would be after the high tranny losses from the maha's.
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Paul with the china blue gti??
His car had cams iirc

Get your motor back together Ryan and get it back on the rollers
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Paul with the china blue gti??
His car had cams iirc

Get your motor back together Ryan and get it back on the rollers
It is back together, map was tweaked in August. Although I'd like to see what it would do with more advanced ignition as its mapped for 95.
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Yea get some good fuel in there.. Will make a difference in an engine as tuned as yours.
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Found the one from August.

Mapped and run on 95Ron.

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If there's been no changes to the car it's interesting to see a 10hp difference from the NMS rollers to the Surrey ones. Especially considering some claim NMS are a hard roller to see power on.
Yea i need to grab the WHP graph from NMS when i can..... Chris made 278ish at NMS on the same roller as me and again on the surrey RR made 240odd. The surrey road read alot lower than the NMS one.
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Yea i need to grab the WHP graph from NMS when i can..... Chris made 278ish at NMS on the same roller as me and again on the surrey RR made 240odd. The surrey road read alot lower than the NMS one.
Shows how much the rollers can vary really.

I know JKM the operator said it was a hard roller to get good power on, it made more than it did on dave walkers when it was first mapped so all good.
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My old 2001 Saxo VTS, completely stock on 95ron fuel.

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Updated my first post, i grabbed my WHP graph from NMS today.

The superflow dyno at NMS made more BHP & WHP but less LB/FT and also intrestingly the superflow is the only one ive used that calculates the run down for each individual car and this was less than the DynoDynamics used at surrey & RS tuning, so in reality the BHP figures from both dyno dynamics should be a little lower than they are.
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Updated my first post, i grabbed my WHP graph from NMS today.

The superflow dyno at NMS made more BHP & WHP but less LB/FT and also intrestingly the superflow is the only one ive used that calculates the run down for each individual car and this was less than the DynoDynamics used at surrey & RS tuning, so in reality the BHP figures from both dyno dynamics should be a little lower than they are.
Lowering the dyno dynamics ones would make the NMS figure seem even higher next to them. The run downs are not 100% accurate though as we know from various runs with maha's etc seeing a 2-3% difference shows the perceived calculations to not be a long way off at least.
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Lowering the dyno dynamics ones would make the NMS figure seem even higher next to them. The run downs are not 100% accurate though as we know from various runs with maha's etc seeing a 2-3% difference shows the perceived calculations to not be a long way off at least.
Yea you cant really take any figure whp/bhp/tloss from any single one of them. im hopefully going to try and get it on 2-3 other different types of dyno's and see what readings come up.
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