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1st June 2013, 15:36
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Originally Posted by Gandi699
Went into Game on saturday, guy was saying it could be anywhere from £450 to £700. Simply not paying that to be honest, hardware should be cheaper these days
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Means he didn't have the slightest clue, lol at ballpark figures.
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Originally Posted by Brettles1986
You are a fool (not you specifically) if you believe that they are making a console that is not going to have gaming at its epicenter.
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So far it's been rather like
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbWgUO-Rqcw
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1st June 2013, 16:59
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Originally Posted by Manu
Means he didn't have the slightest clue, lol at ballpark figures.
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Probably when they were taking refundable deposits, he did say they'd only taken 80 odd in a week
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2nd June 2013, 13:10
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#103
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Lol at the pre-order muppets when the official price isn't even yet confirmed. Giving too much money to a company with the promise of getting it back with no interest? They're laughing all the way to the bank on that one. Amazon is at £600
What a con tbh, money back guarantee sounds more like would you like fifa and forza with your new live subscription sir? That'll be 50 quid extra then please. Either that or plugging the box and watching tv on your tv.
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3rd June 2013, 13:09
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#104
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I'm thinking i will be switching to playstation when it comes out.. Just seems that the xbox is going to be silly. Silly price, not as game orientated.. Why would i want to stream the tv i can see on my tv without using my internet allowance?!
Going to wait what both offer in the next few months, but I'm swaying way towards PS4 at the moment!
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3rd June 2013, 13:23
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They are certainly going to see a lot of hairy ass and balls in the morning if the camera is always on...
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I managed to make it outside once but i didnt like it - i couldnt work out how to click on people and trees and stuff
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6th June 2013, 23:46
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#106
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Rumours (from decent sources) abound of ms having yield problems with their apu/esdram. Looks like theyre having to downclock the system. Graphics power looks like its going to suffer, with folk speculating it wont manage 1080p at an acceptable framerate.
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7th June 2013, 01:07
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They'll sort it in time, just hope it doesn't end up like the red ring problems they suffered. You'd have thought they'd have learnt their lesson.
Makes me think not to purchase a phase 1 model
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7th June 2013, 02:05
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An external psu is being used, so theyre obv covering their arses wrt heat build up.
Theyve confirmed mandatory 24hour connection to xbl servers. Games wont work without 24 hourly connection. Fuckbags.
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7th June 2013, 02:15
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7th June 2013, 08:05
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#110
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I turn my Xbox off at the wall when I go to bed so its fucked about doing that isn't it. Also what about people
Who go on holiday for 2 weeks? Oh sorry you didn't log in within 24 hours you cant play your games
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7th June 2013, 08:08
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its sounding worse by the day...
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I managed to make it outside once but i didnt like it - i couldnt work out how to click on people and trees and stuff
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7th June 2013, 09:59
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must admit the more thats coming out about the xbox the less im liking it.
Leaving the door open for a massive PS4 win which disappoints me as i hate my ps3 with a passion.
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7th June 2013, 10:38
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Saw this earlier, seems like microsoft has now officially gone full retard.
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Offline gaming is not possible after these prescribed times until you re-establish a connection, but you can still watch live TV and enjoy Blu-ray and DVD movies.
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watch TV or films??? On my games console??? Faaaaaaa', I'm sold.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...=sWcKtJj5_oY#!
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7th June 2013, 13:54
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I can see what theyre aiming for with the machine in terms of business strategies, but im a bit worried about people buying this without realising they need to connect to the net. Inability to sell.games on, well that can totally get to fuck. Ive sold and swapped games with guys i know who arent on my friends list in the past.
I liked ms comment along the lines of "anyone playing on your console will have full access to all your games and content, regardless of their relationship to you". Fucking hell we have been waiting forever for a console that anyone in the room can play....
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7th June 2013, 14:18
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In 2002, Microsoft made Xbox Live. They made it available ONLY to people with a broadband internet connection. Everyone said it was marketing suicide.
Look at it now.
Do you not think PlayStation will have a similar system?
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7th June 2013, 14:33
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Probably, its no coincidence that ea binned the online pass.
The 24 hour connection is annoying, but its everything else thats stupid; im not actually sure on the legality of ms deciding whether or not i can gift a game.
All the tv piss has been confirmed as not actually working in europe, australia and canada. Its a feature for north america only.
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7th June 2013, 14:56
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It will be interesting to see what the PS4 is like in terms of second hand games etc. Unless it has already been announced that is. I know the restrictions on selling on games are being pushed very strongly by the games development companies to increase their revenue. I'd be surprised if Sony haven't been pressured into a similar system.
If somehow Sony don't do this it will be interesting to see what dev companies do regarding their console development. It wouldn't surprise me if the best games become only available for the XBOX ONE or at least don't get released on the PS4 until it has been out a while for the XBOX...
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7th June 2013, 15:56
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Originally Posted by Kebabman
It wouldn't surprise me if the best games become only available for the XBOX ONE or at least don't get released on the PS4 until it has been out a while for the XBOX...
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That will never happen.. GTA used to be purely for Playstation, as it was obviously disk, not cartridge like the N64 was.. Soon as the brought a GTA out once the xbox was made.. It was on both..
No game devoloper would give it to one console months before the other, there would be fair trading breaches for a start! The only way around it would be if Microsoft developed the game themselves!
Jay, as for the broadband thing, thats when broadband was been rolled out all over the country, most places had it, or were about to get it.. The thing with the 24 hour internet access, means you are FORCED to pay for XBL, where a parent would buy an xbox because its the cheaper console, for their kid to play, not requiring XBL, therefore and internet connection, was fine..
Now it means someone wanting to do that, not only has to pay for the internet connection now, but xbox live..
They have made a media centre, not a console.
Looking 99% like i will be going to Playstation
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7th June 2013, 18:13
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Originally Posted by smiith
That will never happen.. GTA used to be purely for Playstation, as it was obviously disk, not cartridge like the N64 was.. Soon as the brought a GTA out once the xbox was made.. It was on both..
No game devoloper would give it to one console months before the other, there would be fair trading breaches for a start! The only way around it would be if Microsoft developed the game themselves!
Jay, as for the broadband thing, thats when broadband was been rolled out all over the country, most places had it, or were about to get it.. The thing with the 24 hour internet access, means you are FORCED to pay for XBL, where a parent would buy an xbox because its the cheaper console, for their kid to play, not requiring XBL, therefore and internet connection, was fine..
Now it means someone wanting to do that, not only has to pay for the internet connection now, but xbox live..
They have made a media centre, not a console.
Looking 99% like i will be going to Playstation
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Nowhere does it say that you have to have Xbox Live Gold. JUST an internet connection. Xbox Live Silver is free of charge.
Fair trading rights? What fair trading rights? If a developer wants to develop it for one console, they can. If they want to develop it for both, but stagger the release, they can. What about Android and iOS?
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7th June 2013, 18:20
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Quote:
Originally Posted by smiith
That will never happen.. GTA used to be purely for Playstation, as it was obviously disk, not cartridge like the N64 was.. Soon as the brought a GTA out once the xbox was made.. It was on both..
No game devoloper would give it to one console months before the other, there would be fair trading breaches for a start! The only way around it would be if Microsoft developed the game themselves!
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So you know nowt about software development then... There wouldn't be anything like a fair trading breach in this case. They are two totally different platforms and the games have to be written for each platform (although granted some of the code can be re-used). You don't just write the game once and it works on both. It's like saying that any piece of software available for a PC must be available for MAC or it would break fair trade rules. Or iPhone/android/blackberry etc etc. The dev companies can write a game for whatever platform they want and release it whenever they want.
There would obviously be a big advantage to the dev companies if one platform doesn't allow the second hand selling of games as they potentially stand to make more money. And they can try to force people to choose this platform by delaying releases on less favourable platforms, if they release at all.
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