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25th June 2009, 13:13
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25th June 2009, 13:16
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#762
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what are the ratios like on the xsi box?
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Pirates of the caribean 2 (aka been a first one, aka repost)
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Originally Posted by lee_saxo
some lad pulled up a type R, and had a sticker on the back. If it ain't jap it's crap. I thought what a bender
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25th June 2009, 13:20
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#763
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Originally Posted by Ashleyp
what are the ratios like on the xsi box?
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Same as most of the others. But has a 4.29 final drive.
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All we know is that he's called the Toad!
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25th June 2009, 13:26
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As Toad said,
the ratios of a VTS, XSi, S1 box etc are all the same.
It's the final drive that differs, giving 'better' acceleration but less top speed achieved in each gear.
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25th June 2009, 14:32
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#765
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LSD Mr sayer! GET IT IN!
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25th June 2009, 14:34
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Originally Posted by Karl
As Toad said,
the ratios of a VTS, XSi, S1 box etc are all the same.
It's the final drive that differs, giving 'better' acceleration but less top speed achieved in each gear.
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ahh i see, cheers man
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Originally Posted by Tupps
Pirates of the caribean 2 (aka been a first one, aka repost)
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Originally Posted by lee_saxo
some lad pulled up a type R, and had a sticker on the back. If it ain't jap it's crap. I thought what a bender
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25th June 2009, 14:58
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#767
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a special thanks to cunt couriers who delivered the box from shropshire to surrey.... 
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25th June 2009, 22:47
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#768
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Originally Posted by leeroybrown
I like the way this project is taking shape Mr S.
Well thought out Mods, always win!
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cheers man... nearly done tbh only had the car 8 months lol.
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Originally Posted by Toad
Nice. Are you going for a Quaife LSD while it's out?  |
sorry I feel terrible about this... im sorry 
dunno yet 
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Originally Posted by Ge0_Ge
nice BOX! lol
taking shape niceley, wish i had the cash to splash |
yeah it's weird I don't think I've spent as much as it probably looks really dude... I need to look but it's defo less than £1,200 I think on mods.
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nice box ads, must have taken some finding.
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thanks man, Adamhighfield put it up for friend so I contacted him and just by chance a certain person (ryan) was in the area and so picked the box up for me
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was for sale on here irrc.. he and toad fought it out. lol
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sorrrryyyyyy toad
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Originally Posted by Steve_VTS
where you get the box?
you want to sell me it? You going to be sticking an ATB in there?
You planning on getting it on track this year Mr Sayer?
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1) got it off adamhighfields friend
2) no
3) dunno
4) unlikely... I'm taking it off the road in august as the insurance runs out, I'm moving into a house with street parking, so there is no way in hell I'm keeping the car there. so it's going SORN and it's going to live in the garage at sayer towers.
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Nice box mate,copying me again  lol, your putting in an LSD I hope!? |
copying? Now I'm used to the 'copying' allegations about yates' car, which I can't be arsed to defend anymore but yes, it's true, I'm copying yates'
man everyone is going mad over the LSD... we'll see.
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Originally Posted by saxo_ron
I think it wont be long before ayer is lording it with shouts of
'' ATB Just kicked in yo ''
Good buy sayer, our cars will be similar when both are fully built
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diff comment again... christ are they really that good. I drove yates with the diff and well... it was pretty good around corners actually.
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Nice colour box. |
another cryptic post karl!?!?!? it's silver isn't it!
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Originally Posted by Ashleyp
what are the ratios like on the xsi box?
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VTS 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, and 5t... just the final drive is different... 4.29 for the XSI and 3.938 for the VTS... it works out as being 10% faster acceleration
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LSD Mr sayer! GET IT IN!
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Originally Posted by Ryan
a special thanks to cunt couriers who delivered the box from shropshire to surrey.... |
ryan, seriously thank you so much for that... top top top man
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25th June 2009, 22:57
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great buy ads...
the diff makes one of the most pleasant differences ive done to my car.
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25th June 2009, 22:59
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i didnt realise that there would be a 10% increase in acceleration (approx) from fitting this box. Will await your comments once its fitted.
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25th June 2009, 22:59
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#771
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yar sod it... it'd be rude not to Quaife it really.
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25th June 2009, 23:44
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Haha. Funny replies Ads.
Don't be sorry, it's aboslutely fine.
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Originally Posted by FinchysSaxo
Some say hes the biggest drug dealer in Toadville!
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Originally Posted by sax-oli
and that his dealings even stretch as far as Brazil!
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Originally Posted by Colin
All we know is that he's called the Toad!
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25th June 2009, 23:54
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#773
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Originally Posted by adsayer
yar sod it... it'd be rude not to Quaife it really.
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good man mr sayer!!! i soooo cant wait to drive mine! when its done will have to meet up and ill give you a go?
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26th June 2009, 17:14
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Originally Posted by adsayer
yar sod it... it'd be rude not to Quaife it really.
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Shall you be speaking to Mankee about a full rebuild? I am contemplating wether to get the VTS box I have fully rebuilt with an ATB from Mankee, might as well change the final drive to an XSI if I did decide to go down that route....
P.S - Liking the updates Keep them coming!
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26th June 2009, 20:28
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#775
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What about the EmpeeGees?!!
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26th June 2009, 20:32
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#776
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Good stuff mate. Will be interested to see what you think of it on a road car.
I bought a refurbed S1 box. DHL have gone and lost it
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27th June 2009, 00:59
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All i can say is that the quaife is awesome mate, one of the best things you can do to a saxo/106 imo!
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27th June 2009, 03:37
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Originally Posted by jpsaxo
All i can say is that the quaife is awesome mate, one of the best things you can do to a saxo/106 imo!
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clio!
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27th June 2009, 10:11
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#779
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YOur both wrong! Any car that doesnt come with one as standard? As it will do the same thing.
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29th June 2009, 16:10
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#780
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Originally Posted by Toad
Haha. Funny replies Ads.
Don't be sorry, it's aboslutely fine. |
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Originally Posted by kevin_172
good man mr sayer!!! i soooo cant wait to drive mine! when its done will have to meet up and ill give you a go?
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mate... that'd be mint!!!!
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Originally Posted by rushy_23
What about the EmpeeGees?!!
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don't worry I haven't forgotten about mpg
I have a cunning plan... see below...
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Originally Posted by Ben_Saxo
Good stuff mate. Will be interested to see what you think of it on a road car.
I bought a refurbed S1 box. DHL have gone and lost it |
s1? cluckadoodle... bit short don't you think?
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Originally Posted by jpsaxo
All i can say is that the quaife is awesome mate, one of the best things you can do to a saxo/106 imo!
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I drove Yates' last year and as that was my first long drive outing in a VTS and that was awesome on the track... on the road...  not so sure, you can tell that if you're giving it some it'll catch you out big time - but as you say, as upgrades go it's one of the best that can be done.
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Originally Posted by Raz
Shall you be speaking to Mankee about a full rebuild? I am contemplating wether to get the VTS box I have fully rebuilt with an ATB from Mankee, might as well change the final drive to an XSI if I did decide to go down that route....
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rebuild... well... the box is on 63k... so relatively low mileage, and doesn't feel clunky when turning by hand through the gears, with my lameo check it seems pretty good. But! I'm craving the change from the standard XSI 5th Gear, to a 5th Gear from a VTR.
1st - 4th remain part of the sports cluster for fun times, 5th for cruising.... as I spend most of my time (95%) cruising about (see my mpg), 5th gets used a lot so I may as well heighten it.
I know Mankee could do swap for the 5th's on later type boxes, but not so sure on earlier types.
so going from a:
3.938 FD and 0.85 5th (VTS)
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4.29 FD and a 0.85 5th yeilds (XSI) about a +325 rpm difference
4.29 FD and a 0.767 5th yeilds about a -50 rpm difference
so a total difference of 375rpm. doesn't sound a lot but as I spend most of my time in that gear it makes sense to use that as my mpg gear.
thoughts?
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