Push button start, STILL HASNT WORKED PAGE 2 - Page 3 - Saxperience

hesslevtr · 21st March 2007, 16:35

bin it is my sujestion

other then that cant help

Predator_R32^p · 21st March 2007, 16:37

yep its true the bin is nearing, ill just have the button on show for now lol, could always use it for something else i suppose lol or could take it to an auto electrician

hesslevtr · 21st March 2007, 16:43

yeah could do mate i supose

would your alarm be causing the problem

Predator_R32^p · 21st March 2007, 16:48

well i turns over but just keeps turning over so im thinking i might have the pemanent live on the starter, think ill get the multimemter out and see if it is the permanet bloody live lol, i did follow the max poor manual so might be that

hesslevtr · 21st March 2007, 16:52

yeah sounds like its making the starter stick

Jungle_Jim^m · 21st March 2007, 16:56

i found these pics not sure if they will help you buddy but thought i would post them anyways

Predator_R32^p · 21st March 2007, 17:17

cheers jim but still cant work it out of that lol

Jungle_Jim^m · 21st March 2007, 17:38

see if this helps abit buddy

http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=1188609

Predator_R32^p · 21st March 2007, 17:46

had a look but looks totally different to mine, well the starter button is, i only have 2 terminals on there, on that diagram it has 4 and is saying to earth on of the pins on the realy, ill wait for reevsey to have a look

reevesy_vtr · 21st March 2007, 19:11

put pin 85 to an ingnition supply and the wire from the switch to 86 so when the button is pushed and the ignitino is on the relay should click.
now put the wire from the starter to pin 30 and the little fly lead that come from pin 85 put to pin 87. when you push the button that makes the relay work then whatever is on pin 30 will go down in 87.

Predator_R32^p · 21st March 2007, 21:18

can you say if this is righ reevsey mate???

djrem · 22nd March 2007, 16:35

that looks right.

Have you not got the instructions from richbrook still?

I used them to plug it all in.

MAke sure your relay is mounted with the cables coming in from the bottom.

A poorly mounted relay (on its side or loosly fitted) will make contact when not needed.

Predator_R32^p · 22nd March 2007, 16:40

yeah i still have the instructions but they say to plug it into the actual motor itself, it would be much easier to just put them to the wires under the wheel

just need somebody to get pictures of were they have wires for starter and ignition and to confirm the relay is correct

djrem · 22nd March 2007, 16:46

well the picture i edited for you is the correct way.

How have you mounted the relay?
it could be that gravity is holding it against itsself when youve pressed the switch.

It needs to be vertical.

Predator_R32^p · 22nd March 2007, 16:56

yeah mate i cut that blue wire that is the starter right???

jack-pat · 29th July 2013, 12:17

Sorry guys i know this is an old thread but i have the exact same problem and ive tried everything!! its like the button is stuck on so the started just keeps going even after the engine has started, any advice??

mechsman · 30th July 2013, 11:03

3 pages to wire a push start?!?!? Seriously? I wired a push button start on my old 106 with no diagram and it works off the key or the button.

I should clarify a little, and say that you do have to put the key in and turn it the first 2 clicks to unlock the steering and provide power to the car etc. All the push button is doing is bridging the 2 wires that the ignition barrel does when you twist the key to the 3 position.

I also wired an "arm" toggle switch with snap down cover (drop the cover and the switch goes off) into the starter circuit as well, so people with itchy fingers can't crank the starter (without arming it first) whilst the engine is running. If I'm in a rush I can just use the key like normal.

It would be easy enough to convert the whole lot to keyless operation with a couple more toggle switches, or have it so that you could push the button once to turn the ignition on, and then push again to crank the engine. I actually did a diagram for the latter setup, it just involves a few (6) relays or a couple more if you want to replicate the 2 key clicks and third to crank.

Manu · 30th July 2013, 11:12

^^^ congratulations, you solved a 6 year old thread.

Quote:

Originally Posted by jack-pat

Sorry guys i know this is an old thread but i have the exact same problem and ive tried everything!! its like the button is stuck on so the started just keeps going even after the engine has started, any advice??

get a new button, or reverse back to regular ignition.

mechsman · 30th July 2013, 11:28

Meh, ity popped up in the new activity bit, plus someone new was looking for help and actually used the search button it seems!