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16th July 2009, 08:08
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L-plater
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Manchester
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Car(s): Saxo Furio 1.4i
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Thats amazing. `ve gone from, Hmmmmm ! i quite like my saxo, but is it worth modd`n, to F**k me i cannot wait to start and get this car how i`d like a car. I am sooooo glad i sign up to Sax P now..... can`t wait :O) cheeeeeeeeeeeerz
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16th July 2009, 08:24
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Saxperience Hardcore!
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someone delete post number 7
and imo, if you took out the rant bits, and kept it on track it'd be a lot better... none the less, a fooking awesome bit of reading material
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Pirates of the caribean 2 (aka been a first one, aka repost)
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Originally Posted by lee_saxo
some lad pulled up a type R, and had a sticker on the back. If it ain't jap it's crap. I thought what a bender
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8th August 2009, 10:52
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Regular Poster
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: County Durham
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Car(s): Vauxhall Astra twintop 1.9cdti design
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Good bit of info and useful links thanks very much 
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8th August 2009, 15:16
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Join Date: Aug 2009
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Originally Posted by -Dan-
I did wonder about it, so I've sent an email to GMC just to double check - along with the link showing what I've taken and that's it's all credited to them, so it hopefully won't be an Issue.
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alright mate just wondering if you could help me i have a 1.1 saxo and have made it look like a vtr the only thing is i havent changed the engine, i was looking into putting in a vts but one of my mate sed not to and try and find something fasterone of my mate sed not to and try and find something faster but i dont know what, what are ur thoughts on what i could do??? tone
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8th August 2009, 15:33
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Saxperience Hardcore!
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Originally Posted by tones_saxo
alright mate just wondering if you could help me i have a 1.1 saxo and have made it look like a vtr the only thing is i havent changed the engine, i was looking into putting in a vts but one of my mate sed not to and try and find something fasterone of my mate sed not to and try and find something faster but i dont know what, what are ur thoughts on what i could do??? tone
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should have made your own thread 
the vts engine is the biggest straight fit engine you can put in a saxo, and depeding on what route you take and how much cash you have, you can get very high figures considering the engine size
the only other engine i can think of that may fit would be the 306gti6 engine, it can be done, but im not sure if the mounts are the same, also ive heard the block is too heavy and causes an un-even balance in the car
just make sure your insurance is up to it
and you have to change a lot of things to make is the same as a vts, not just the body and engine
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Originally Posted by Tupps
Pirates of the caribean 2 (aka been a first one, aka repost)
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Originally Posted by lee_saxo
some lad pulled up a type R, and had a sticker on the back. If it ain't jap it's crap. I thought what a bender
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8th August 2009, 16:15
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#46
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Established Member
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Taunton, Somerset
Posts: 1,182
Car(s): Millenium Falcon
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Originally Posted by Ashleyp
should have made your own thread
the vts engine is the biggest straight fit engine you can put in a saxo, and depeding on what route you take and how much cash you have, you can get very high figures considering the engine size
the only other engine i can think of that may fit would be the 306gti6 engine, it can be done, but im not sure if the mounts are the same, also ive heard the block is too heavy and causes an un-even balance in the car
just make sure your insurance is up to it
and you have to change a lot of things to make is the same as a vts, not just the body and engine |
True story. Pretty much what he said.
2.0 GTI lump would take a fair bit more work though and would almost definately need extra chassis strengthening, and without doubt stronger and different mounts.
It's pretty much your decision. It's not going to be easy or cheap to do any conversion, but If your basic chassis is good, low mileage, and the appearance of the car is mint, then by all means go for a VTS conversion, it will be the simplest way that you can make that particular car fast(er).
If it's not mint and is high mileage etc, consider buying a faster car outright, otherwise you could come across a lot of problems down the line with say a high mileage 1.1/Furio chassis, but low mileage VTS engine. But yeah generally with a Saxo-Saxo conversion, there isn't a huge deal to go wrong.
Thas my 2p worth anyway 
Last edited by -Dan-; 10th January 2011 at 12:40.
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12th August 2009, 21:28
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#47
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Join Date: Aug 2009
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Originally Posted by -Dan-
True story. Pretty much what he said.
2.0 GTI lump would take a fair bit more work though and would almost definately need extra chassis strengthening, and without doubt stronger and different mounts.
It's pretty much your decision. It's not going to be easy or cheap to do any conversion, but If your basic chassis is good, low mileage, and the appearance of the car is mint, then by all means go for a VTS conversion, it will be the simplest way that you can make that particular car fast(er).
If it's not mint and is high mileage etc, consider buying a faster car outright, otherwise you could come across a lot of problems down the line with say a high mileage 1.1/Furio chassis, but low mileage VTS engine, with engine mounts rusting and not offering the necessary support (If it's the originals), rear beam will probably go around 70/80k, gearbox age should ideally match the engine, so you could end up spending thousands on doing up something that isn't worth it. But yeah generally with a Saxo-Saxo conversion, there isn't a huge deal to go wrong.
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sorry was new to all of this, my budget is a worry i can always do it monthly bit by bit, on the vts are the mounts the same i thought they were different?? a friend of mine has a vts that he is selling for spares and repairs and has the engine(67k) and at £400 what price range s good and milage? Also what needs to be changed electrically??
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17th August 2009, 10:19
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#48
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Frequent Poster
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Littlehampton, West Sussex
Posts: 613
Car(s): 1997 Amazon Green VTS
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love that post mate 
answered alot of questions i had proper helpful lol
& thanks John lol
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17th August 2009, 10:57
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#49
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Saxperience Hardcore!
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: smurfland.
Posts: 17,346
Car(s): Ex saxo owner.
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Brilliant thread & will clear up lot of myths/confusion.
Steve.
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28th August 2009, 20:30
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Infrequent Poster
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Milton Keynes
Posts: 155
Car(s): 1999 Saxo VTR
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Ah well that answers my supercharger or turbo question
supercharger sounds the better option to me
i just wish it could have that sweet dump valve noise :/
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3rd September 2009, 22:06
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Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 641
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Good guide, thanks, thinking of a 4-2-1 manifold in the future.
Cheers.
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16th September 2009, 17:57
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Newbie
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Omagh
Posts: 14
Car(s): 2003 vtr saxo
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twin powerflow system
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very helpful
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13th October 2009, 20:55
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L-plater
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Lisburn
Posts: 42
Car(s): 2003 Saxo Vtr
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awesome thread answers all of ym questions
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23rd October 2009, 21:48
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Infrequent Poster
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: burton upon trent
Posts: 232
Car(s): 57 C4 Coupe VTR+
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thats epic ive bookmarked it and will be starting a few new mods thanks mate really opened my eyes to a few new things
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Last edited by mikey1; 23rd October 2009 at 21:48.
Reason: spelling :P
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1st December 2009, 23:06
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Newbie
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Swansea
Posts: 20
Car(s): 2003, wicked red saxo vts
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really impressed with that post, and its answred alot of my questions 
BIG HELP
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1st December 2009, 23:08
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#56
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Forum Section Moderator
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Liverpool
Posts: 15,517
Car(s): Saxo VTR
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ashleyp
someone delete post number 7
and imo, if you took out the rant bits, and kept it on track it'd be a lot better... none the less, a fooking awesome bit of reading material
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+1 is a lot smoother to read without that post.
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14th December 2009, 22:53
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#57
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Established Member
Join Date: May 2009
Location: pboro
Posts: 1,442
Car(s): Saxo 1.4 furio
Now Saxo 1.6 VTR
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really helpful thread
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14th December 2009, 23:21
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#58
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Established Member
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Peterborough
Posts: 1,292
Car(s): Mk1 Saxo VTR,
MK1 Saxo VTS,
Ford Ka
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That's epic, thanks!
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14th December 2009, 23:44
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Infrequent Poster
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Truro, Cornwall
Posts: 188
Car(s): '52 VTR, Black, 15" Dezent RB, JVC R901 Head Unit
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this thread is well worth the time and effort you put into writing it - brilliant!
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18th December 2009, 21:41
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L-plater
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: bettws, bridgend
Posts: 43
Car(s): citroen saxo vtr 1999...Black
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thanks mate...i was gonna do everthing opposite to what you said...but i'm gonna go with your way...thanks alot
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