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3rd December 2013, 11:11
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Matt's 'Make it moar better' / 'less sh*t' S1 106 XN Project
So, I had a VTS. It was Blue, it was fun, I put "some bits" on it, I took it apart, put it back together again, and generally had fun in it. Being a last of the line-ish 2003 car, it's obviously completely rotten, so basically, I'm breaking it for any decent parts and scrapping what's left of the comically cheesy shell.
I set out to find ideally, a non-sunroof tidy early 106 shell, as I figured this would be a good base if I wanted to start a proper project. Which brings us to the car. As always, one popped up when I wasn't actually looking, so back in August, I picked this up:
It's a 1994 106 'XN', which appears to be french for "extra poverty specification". The amount of features it doesn't have is frankly staggering. It doesn't even have intermittent wipers, they're either on, or off.
What it does have going for it, is a lack of sunroof, and the correct number of doors. Being devoid of anything even remotely entertaining or useful, it's also supposed to weigh 790kg apparently, which is nice. I'm sure I can add to that. It's also somehow only done 49,000 miles, has all the old MOT's and thus a nice clean shell.
So, I've ran around in it for a couple of months here and there, and yesterday I SORN'ed it to start 'fiddling' over christmas.
The end goal, is going to be a sort of 'fast road' type of affair I guess. I'm wanting a car that I can drive to a track, enjoy on track, and drive home. I really fancy some european tracks and road trips though, so I'll be trying to retain some level of comfort. Having done a good few trips out in MuZiZZle's VTS now, I don't fancy a euro trip in fixed back buckets and no dashboard.
I've been accumulating "stuff", and off the top of my head I've got a handy 16v engine that was fairly well refreshed 5K ago by my fine self, an S2 Rallye Gearbox, a set of Bilstein B8's, a 4-1 manifold, a 2" pugsport, 23mm torsion bars, polybushes, VTS wiring looms, various braces, VTS airbox and all the sets of brakes apart from the ones I think I want now?
I've got a 283mm setup, and Brembo's. I was going to use the Brembo's but I think now I've decided to go with 14" S2 Rallye Steel wheels, which shoots that plan down in flames as they won't go over the brakes. So I'll likely sell them and go for a decent 266mm setup.
So there we go, probably more pics over the next month, picking up over xmas when I have some time off. Progress wise I'm hoping to get the wiring sorted and the engine and box in over xmas, I'd be really happy if it was rolling and running by early January, but we'll see I guess.
I need to make a beam, argh.
Last 2 dull pics for now, squeaky clean boot floor:
Yeahhhh buddy. There's a tiny little hole in one of the front inner wings I've found which I'll attend to over xmas, and I'm toying with the idea of stitch welding the engine bay.
That's enough waffling for now I think, so cheers for reading!
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3rd December 2013, 11:16
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Can't wait to see the razekorrr being built!
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sounds fucking horrendous
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3rd December 2013, 11:18
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Send me those gearbox toolzzzz back in time for xmas man Hindle!
Please x
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3rd December 2013, 11:41
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fancy a set of carbs?
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3rd December 2013, 11:42
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fancy a set of carbs?
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no?
I'm having seat dilemma's though, what have you got left?
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3rd December 2013, 11:59
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Clean!
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lol because you are a brand fag
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3rd December 2013, 12:02
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Send me those gearbox toolzzzz back in time for xmas man Hindle!
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Trying my best to get it sorted broski! X
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sounds fucking horrendous
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3rd December 2013, 12:02
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Clean!
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Ironically, at the moment it really isn't.
You'd have a heart attack, it's covered in those country mudzzzz and everything.
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3rd December 2013, 12:03
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Suprising a M reg 106 can have no rust yet there's newer pugs/saxos like you say 2003's with terribad rust!
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3rd December 2013, 12:19
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Suprising a M reg 106 can have no rust yet there's newer pugs/saxos like you say 2003's with terribad rust!
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I think it's basically not been used tbh dude, it had 49k on it when I got it, and according to the MOT's it had done 10k since the previous MOT, works out about 2,300 miles a year on average before that! Mad.
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3rd December 2013, 12:25
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no?
I'm having seat dilemma's though, what have you got left?
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got a single plug ECU mapped to go with them!
seats, erm, pair of tatty cobra monaco's out the rallye, a sebring pro and a sebring S and some fixed back recaro's, i'm not sure on any of them so theyre all up for grabs
if your after a 266 caliper setup i think this is whats on the rallye
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3rd December 2013, 12:28
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Interesting.
££ for the 266's? Iirc the monaco's are blue so I'll leave those ta, just had a look through your thread and the sebrings have wingback tabs so I wouldn't be able to go on the ring as they've banned them now
What are the Recaro's like, any pics?
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4th December 2013, 08:54
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I really can't wait to see how this goes! With all them parts you have to hand this could be the ultimate sleeper, keep is posted
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4th December 2013, 14:31
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Love this! Cant wait to see how it turns out.. I'd leave it flat arch and put Rallye steels on it haha
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4th December 2013, 14:45
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I should have Rallye steels sorted for it, and it'll be remaining flat arch
Thanks for the comments folks.
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4th December 2013, 14:58
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Thats a clean solid base!! Should see some solid quick progress with what you have laying around to....
Under 800kg to, could be an impressive track toy!!
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4th December 2013, 15:15
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Originally Posted by matt_vtr_15a
Thats a clean solid base!! Should see some solid quick progress with what you have laying around to....
Under 800kg to, could be an impressive track toy!!
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Thanks Matt, been keeping an eye on your build on here and PH, nice engine plans
It's under 800kg at the moment, according to the handbook, but by the time I've fitted the heavier VTS engine, and then added bigger wider wheels, larger brakes, front ARB etc, it's all going to mount up so I'll have to look at what I can do with regards to weight reduction to get it back down.
Muz's VTS is around the 820kg mark with fuel in it, and that's very basic inside, so if I can get near 850 as a final figure with some interior, I'll be happy, who knows!
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4th December 2013, 15:29
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Thanks Matt, been keeping an eye on your build on here and PH, nice engine plans
It's under 800kg at the moment, according to the handbook, but by the time I've fitted the heavier VTS engine, and then added bigger wider wheels, larger brakes, front ARB etc, it's all going to mount up so I'll have to look at what I can do with regards to weight reduction to get it back down.
Muz's VTS is around the 820kg mark with fuel in it, and that's very basic inside, so if I can get near 850 as a final figure with some interior, I'll be happy, who knows!
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I see anything under 1 ton a bonus, I've gone a bit mad with the bhp per ton lark!!
Hoping to see some 2014 spring/summer track time??
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4th December 2013, 15:38
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I dunno yet really, definitely summer. The plan is to get over to europe towards the back end of the summer, if I can get a day or so in at Knockhill before then, that would be good.
I think I might keep it SORN'd until I've got it how I want it, I've technically got enough parts as far as I'm aware to get it converted and running over xmas, but I haven't really finalised the spec yet, and I don't "need" it on the road so I think keeping it off will be plan.
Saves it getting filthy off the winter roads anyway!
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9th December 2013, 09:33
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Started off breaking the VTS this weekend. I didn't get many pictures as I just cracked on with it, and I was using my iPhone for tunes so it was a pain to unplug it lol.
Step 1, grab a handy VTS and assemble required tools, in this case some Fosters, a lumphammer and an axe.
Step 2, hit a bit until things fall off:
Step 3, keep hitting it until the engine has fallen out and put itself neatly against the wall
I also gave the new daily a wash off, regrease and wax since it's being pressed back into daily service. Ah well, it'll work some of the beer off...
Also, I'm on a begging mission.
Does anyone have a buggered loom kicking about, or even part of one. I need this plug for a coil pack, with about 5cm of wire coming out of it. One of mine has pulled out the plug, and I don't really want to change the loom as I'm bollox with electrics, and it's something else to go wrong lol.
So, this is the plug I'm after:
Next job is to start pulling the looms out of the VTS I think, and probably labelling things.
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