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Originally Posted by D--R--E--W
i like willsie's car just dont see why it won an award when it has 2 different colours of yellow on it(bumper being lighter than the rest)
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So how does the colour match of the bumper have any effect on any of the awards?
Best modified - no relevance
Show and shine - no relevance
The original bumper was completely ruined by a company that towed my car somewhere without my knowledge during some engine work.
This bumper i bought shortly before the show season and ordered the correct paint- however, since the paint now is crap water based stuff it doesnt seem to have such a strength in colour than the old solvent based stuff (its actually got more layers of paint on it than the rest of the car has so thats just how bad paint is now (probably something that more people should bare in mind.
I will be having it resprayed ahain (and back to the original widemouth) but ill have to simply say match the colour rather than use the actual paint code.
Something which i couldnt afford to do before the show due to painting the interior and re routing the wiring, fitting carbon, getting new seats etc etc all of which i have done myself (with a few extra man hours help from some of the other lads locally)
The point of having the awards isnt just who can drop their car off to some mechanic, bodyshop, tuning place and have it come back weeks later and shout "TA DA!!" The point is actually picking out all the finer details and knowing whos actually put the time and effort in themselves to get the car to such a standard
I do pick up on other projects on the forum, but ill tell you now for example AlexB spends a ridiculous amount of hours doing his own work to his own car, as does the likes of LEE_VTR1 on his new Rallye (I could continue the list)
So when people have the nerve to turn up to a show and complain about a colour match on paintwork (When my car was first resprayed i actually did all the prepwork myself at the bodyshop under their supervision- this took about 3 weeks of all my spare time, in order to do a bit, learn a bit etc) when theres cars there that turn up dirty, have various bits of paintwork that literally did look like it had been done with tip ex, have bits of the car hanging off its very poor quality to some of the cars which have had so many hours work put into them.
I know for a fact that when judging cars SImo even goes as far as to check whether the inner arches are clean and the arch liners - thats how thoroughly the judging is done
Anyone can whip out a sponge, slap it on their car and say its clean, but it takes alot more if you seriously want to win awards.
DREW the above rant isnt aimed particularly at your comment, but it was an ideal one to comment on when there are always people who do slate cars and genuinely seem in disbelief why their heap hasnt been voted for
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Originally Posted by rey
You being serious?
Why do we keep getting all these petty comments over awards that are meant to be a bit of fun? + Willsy's car IMO is by far and away one of the best on here.
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Cheers Rey
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Originally Posted by AlexB
thats down to the fact he cant colour match as he can no longer use the type of paint tha car was painted in (solvent based) due to the eu being noobs
and the fact that a company destroyed his old front bumper towing his car like knobs
the level of detail to everything on his car is beyond what 90% of people on her would think about
hes even smoothed the inside of his doors now the car is stripped out and resprayed all of the interior then rebuit the car again
same in the engine bay all smoothed and repainted
the man hours on his car is beyond belief
i myself have even stood in the cold and dark in march helping him fit shinier bolts in his engine bay where the wings and slam panel are held on
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Cheers Alex, much appreciated
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Originally Posted by rey
It's beyond frustrating, I've followed Willsy's progress since I first joined the site, and I love seeing how much effort he puts into it...
Its borderline pathetic
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Originally Posted by J222JRA
Bang on imo
Just for the record i have never complained about any awards given.
And willsys car is awesome.
James
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Originally Posted by D--R--E--W
not saying this was aimed at me mate but i was at trax, traelled almost 400 miles to get there
James, i never really aimed what i said at the fact he got an award i was just merely stating the different colour bumper situation as i was defo not the only one that mentioned it at TRAX |
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Originally Posted by AlexB
So did a fair few others
tbh it's a case of look at the cars for details like the judges did
matts car has cost over 25k
still think it's not worth an award now??
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Originally Posted by -Dan-
TBH I don't think the whole awards thing is a major problem. Obviously D--R--E--W is entitled to his own opinion as to the best cars on the stand that day, no-one can take that away.
But what you also can't forget is that a lot of the work peiple put into their cars for that show was behind the scenes. I remember Willsy saying on one thread that he took the suspension legs off etc just so he could clean the arches better, and things like that.
Yes you are entitled to an opinion, and you are entitled to speak your mind, but there is also a point where freedom of speech infringes on other peoples rights too.
Peole who won the awards, won them fair and square, it was judged by independant judges who decided that on the day that certain cars were the best in a certain category.
Whether you agree or not is completely different to disputing something, voicing an opinion is acceptable but unless you are willing to judge next year and keep every single member happy, then saying 'this person or 'that person' shouldn't have won isn't.
Now lets get this thread back on topic.
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Cheers for the comments everyone
My rant above isnt particularly aimed at any comments in particular (everyone is entitled to their opinions) but when theres so much questioning of awards from people who just turn up on the day looking to pick out faults etc they have to understand how much time and effort they put in themselves on these cars- its much more than a quick wash and a hoover that goes on in the leadup to these shows (and throughout the year rain or shine)
At the end of the day the awards are just a bit of fun.
And for anyone who does wish to question them then there is quite a few very good detailed progress threads which ill be happy to link them to
Ta
Sorry pred had to be said.
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