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15th April 2010, 08:57
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Originally Posted by saxspeed
some people on here need to get a grip if he wants to cam a 1.1 just leave him to it, prety shure a 65bhp sax with a good cam(20bhp), de-cat n ram air(10-15bhp), mibi a bit of headwork(5bhp or whatever) n it would rape a vtr, weight to power ratio, and in outright power pluswith the 1.1 box in it it would have pleanty of pick up
only downside is it would be down on bottom end torque on a vtr.....maybe lol
just got to try it and see mate :d let me know how it goes
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warning epic amounts of fail detected in the vicinity of the above post............
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15th April 2010, 17:14
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Confused myself there i meant to put the cam would gain about 20bhp along with a de-cat n ram air, must nt of been payin atention in a world of my own lol
but to be honest if you did all tht to a 1.1 and mibi skimed the head n done the ports, little bit of lightening it would be quite an acheivement to be not far off a vtr if not quicker acceleration just down on torque. plus if you can get the ecu limiter removed or backed off a higher singing engine will preduce more revs obvuisly increasing bhp
and do know what im talking about i tune engines that i have ran in the 125gp brittish superbikes and broke lap records on them and at the end of the day an engines an engine.
i think u should do it just for the pleasure of folk sayin " you got a vtr in that" n you can turn round n go " na u jus got beat by a 1.1" lol
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15th April 2010, 17:19
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Please stop digging a larger hole.
Revving an engine higher does not necessarily produce more BHP output. It depends on how much torque can be achieved at that given point. Maximum BHP will always drop before the limiter is set in a standard road car.
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15th April 2010, 17:26
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Time to put the spade down.....
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15th April 2010, 17:40
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Originally Posted by SaxSpeed
Confused myself there i meant to put the cam would gain about 20bhp along with a de-cat n ram air, must nt of been payin atention in a world of my own lol
but to be honest if you did all tht to a 1.1 and mibi skimed the head n done the ports, little bit of lightening it would be quite an acheivement to be not far off a vtr if not quicker acceleration just down on torque. plus if you can get the ecu limiter removed or backed off a higher singing engine will preduce more revs obvuisly increasing bhp
and do know what im talking about i tune engines that i have ran in the 125gp brittish superbikes and broke lap records on them and at the end of the day an engines an engine.
i think u should do it just for the pleasure of folk sayin " you got a vtr in that" n you can turn round n go " na u jus got beat by a 1.1" lol
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I have actually just laughed out loud.
As toad said - Maximum BHP will always drop before the limiter is set in a standard road car.
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15th April 2010, 17:53
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Originally Posted by SaxSpeed
Confused myself there i meant to put the cam would gain about 20bhp along with a de-cat n ram air, must nt of been payin atention in a world of my own lol
but to be honest if you did all tht to a 1.1 and mibi skimed the head n done the ports, little bit of lightening it would be quite an acheivement to be not far off a vtr if not quicker acceleration just down on torque. plus if you can get the ecu limiter removed or backed off a higher singing engine will preduce more revs obvuisly increasing bhp
and do know what im talking about i tune engines that i have ran in the 125gp brittish superbikes and broke lap records on them and at the end of the day an engines an engine.
i think u should do it just for the pleasure of folk sayin " you got a vtr in that" n you can turn round n go " na u jus got beat by a 1.1" lol
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LMAO that made me laugh. Are you taking the piss?
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15th April 2010, 17:55
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Just me, or does anyone else feel sorry for the people this n00b tunes engines for?
ur 1.1 is now sikkk blud
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15th April 2010, 18:01
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Originally Posted by SaxSpeed
Confused myself there i meant to put the cam would gain about 20bhp along with a de-cat n ram air, must nt of been payin atention in a world of my own lol
but to be honest if you did all tht to a 1.1 and mibi skimed the head n done the ports, little bit of lightening it would be quite an acheivement to be not far off a vtr if not quicker acceleration just down on torque. plus if you can get the ecu limiter removed or backed off a higher singing engine will preduce more revs obvuisly increasing bhp
and do know what im talking about i tune engines that i have ran in the 125gp brittish superbikes and broke lap records on them and at the end of the day an engines an engine.
i think u should do it just for the pleasure of folk sayin " you got a vtr in that" n you can turn round n go " na u jus got beat by a 1.1" lol
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15th April 2010, 18:44
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SaxSpeed
Confused myself there i meant to put the cam would gain about 20bhp along with a de-cat n ram air, must nt of been payin atention in a world of my own lol
but to be honest if you did all tht to a 1.1 and mibi skimed the head n done the ports, little bit of lightening it would be quite an acheivement to be not far off a vtr if not quicker acceleration just down on torque. plus if you can get the ecu limiter removed or backed off a higher singing engine will preduce more revs obvuisly increasing bhp
and do know what im talking about i tune engines that i have ran in the 125gp brittish superbikes and broke lap records on them and at the end of the day an engines an engine.
i think u should do it just for the pleasure of folk sayin " you got a vtr in that" n you can turn round n go " na u jus got beat by a 1.1" lol
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mate an increase in Revs does not mean an increase in power.... Cars have peak power that will usually drop off a little before the red line....its called a power band.
An exhaust and "ram air" as you put it will probs get what maybe 2-4 Bhp maybe 5bhp if your lucky from a 1.1. You then still expect a Cam to produce 15BHP.... this really is garbage.
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15th April 2010, 19:00
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Looking at the bigger picture here chaps...
A 50% increase of fuck all, is still fuck all...
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15th April 2010, 19:00
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Originally Posted by SaxSpeed
some people on here need to get a grip if he wants to cam a 1.1 just leave him to it, prety shure a 65bhp sax with a good cam(20bhp), de-cat n ram air(10-15bhp), mibi a bit of headwork(5bhp or whatever) n it would rape a vtr, weight to power ratio, and in outright power pluswith the 1.1 box in it it would have pleanty of pick up
only downside is it would be down on bottom end torque on a vtr.....maybe lol
just got to try it and see mate let me know how it goes
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rofl....
Out right power made me laugh the most.
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15th April 2010, 19:01
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this thread is full of fail.
tuning a 1.1 why piss into the wind, it just comes back and gets your leg damp. As for sax speed, tuning tips from a cereal box? Higher RPM wont mean more power if the 'cam' isnt right for the application, the standard cam isnt. Hence why you see on rolling roads the 'peak' is often slightly before the limiter
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Last edited by Ryan; 15th April 2010 at 19:03.
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15th April 2010, 19:04
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Originally Posted by Ashleyp
Just me, or does anyone else feel sorry for the people this n00b tunes engines for?
ur 1.1 is now sikkk blud
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sikkk or shit?
Not sure if you put a typo or not.
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15th April 2010, 19:04
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thats what i said ryan
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15th April 2010, 19:05
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Originally Posted by SaxSpeed
plus if you can get the ecu limiter removed or backed off a higher singing engine will preduce more revs obvuisly increasing bhpl
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If you unlock the ecu i believe you get rid of the limiter? If you do that your car should be pretty rapid mate along with the cams and airfilter.
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15th April 2010, 19:07
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sikkk or shit?
Not sure if you put a typo or not.
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was "sikk" as in a piss take
subliminally, i meant shit with a capital S
and lol toad - it'll be worth it when he 'beats that vtr' down the local highstreet on road wars
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Originally Posted by lee_saxo
some lad pulled up a type R, and had a sticker on the back. If it ain't jap it's crap. I thought what a bender
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15th April 2010, 19:08
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Originally Posted by Mardgee
If you unlock the ecu i believe you get rid of the limiter? If you do that your car should be pretty rapid mate along with the cams and airfilter.
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unlocking an ecu doesn't get rid of the limiter.
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15th April 2010, 19:09
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Originally Posted by Ashleyp
was "sikk" as in a piss take
subliminally, i meant shit with a capital S
and lol toad - it'll be worth it when he 'beats that vtr' down the local highstreet on road wars
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i knew what you meant
Sikkk shit < my new saying for a few days.
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15th April 2010, 19:10
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airbox - 10bhp
camshaft - 20bhp
headwork well thats another 15
remap another 400
exhaust 20bhp...
Yep thats a 500bhp 1.1
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15th April 2010, 19:11
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Is saxspeed the same guy who posted a thread on how (not) to lower a rear beam?
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