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Old 13th November 2007, 15:56   #61
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To me i would get someone who knows what they are doing to install the bodies cam, ecu etc

The take it to me preferred Mapper to do the mapping

All depends on money and how far you want to travel
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Old 13th November 2007, 15:59   #62
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Well, I'm thinking of going all the bloody way to Scotland! But do I really need to?
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Old 13th November 2007, 16:00   #63
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Must be somewhere closer Toad?
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Old 13th November 2007, 16:02   #64
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I'm Sure, but I don't have any proof of where is a good place to go. THe reason I'm thinking GMC is because they are familiar with the KMS setup. And I was thinking of getting that. Kam is looking into a price for me... *cough* hint Kam...
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Old 13th November 2007, 16:03   #65
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Old 13th November 2007, 16:12   #66
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i stilll need help tooo guys lol
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Old 13th November 2007, 16:24   #67
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thats a picture of our set up on the corsa 1600

running jenvey bodies with 90mm trumpets and omex 600 management.

the car also has forged pistons and conrods, some custom newmans cams and a host of other goodies that we desgined for it after we mapped it the other day its now pushing 203bhp

we are more than capable of performing any throttle bodie conversion on any car this is our bread and butter, if anyone wants any more info feel free to ring us or even pop in to vsport for a look at our work, and potential customers with money to spend would be welcome to a passenger ride to see how well the car performs.
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personally if i was starting from scratch i would buy the kms DTH set up as they are supposed to be a direct copy of the dth set up by pugsport but at a fraction of the cost.

If you are spending big ££ on a rebuild i would also go the full hog and particularily if running forged pistons fork out the extra ££££ for solid lifters and a lot wilder cam set up.

Personally id get QEP to build the engine itself as im a fan of their work and a mate has a 183.3bhp set up by them that just seems mental!

Ecu for the money if you get the kms with the dth its cheaper although im unsure on the kms as a few people seem to have had problems with the wideband irc, but thats not a deffinate you need to ask other users.

Although im a fan of the emerald ecus, espec as if you buy the dave walker does slightly cheaper mapping sessions irc.

i also would keep a 4-2-1 configuration manifold myself.
cant be fucked to read it all hence my posts.
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Steve Hill motorsport is nearer to you Toad- theres loads of places in Bucks and Oxon as its the motorsport hotspot in the country...
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the corsa bay looks well! 203 is impresive!
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Rushy when i had the setup you were looking at i was very happy with the results that i had!! Nd with regards to trumpet length im still happy with short trumpets on 809's
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personally if i was starting from scratch i would buy the kms DTH set up as they are supposed to be a direct copy of the dth set up by pugsport but at a fraction of the cost.

If you are spending big ££ on a rebuild i would also go the full hog and particularily if running forged pistons fork out the extra ££££ for solid lifters and a lot wilder cam set up.

Personally id get QEP to build the engine itself as im a fan of their work and a mate has a 183.3bhp set up by them that just seems mental!

Ecu for the money if you get the kms with the dth its cheaper although im unsure on the kms as a few people seem to have had problems with the wideband irc, but thats not a deffinate you need to ask other users.

Although im a fan of the emerald ecus, espec as if you buy the dave walker does slightly cheaper mapping sessions irc.

i also would keep a 4-2-1 configuration manifold myself.
cant be fucked to read it all hence my posts.
Thing is though Ryan you mention further internals and more crazy cams, theres
no end to how far you can take it! And as we all know the more BHP the more
the cost rises. Im at the point now where I dont want mental power, like 180+
bhp. Im just after a good setup. My budget is £3.5k, possbily more. But rather
not at this moment in time.

I doubt I will even bother with the forged pistons at this stage too. Just go for
a nice simple setup. Then keep it running sweet. Once the engines getting tired
then possibly go for a rebuild with all new improved internals: when Im rich
and bald that is like my mate Bic
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What do you think of the difference with this setup against your old one matey?
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Jay i know were it is ,its in all that paper work in bottom draw ok
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I agree with Ryan and Kam, if i were to do it now i'd go for the kms dth boddies simply because mine and ryans are no longer available, and go with whatever ecu your mapper is happy with using - i'd personally go with gmc as i was more than happy with there work and the drive back was worth the drive up there - if you get my drift Lol
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LOL you nutter! Enjoy the drive did we?

Would be good to see how mine ends up if I do go for the Jenveys and Omex.
Be good to compare once its done. Josh are you running forged pistson? I know
it says high comp pistons on your sig, is that the same thing lol?
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LOL you nutter! Enjoy the drive did we?

Would be good to see how mine ends up if I do go for the Jenveys and Omex.
Be good to compare once its done. Josh are you running forged pistson? I know
it says high comp pistons on your sig, is that the same thing lol?
yes Rush...lol
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josh how long did it take you to get up to gmc?

they seem like the only place that can do everything i want doing
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josh how long did it take you to get up to gmc?

they seem like the only place that can do everything i want doing
Few hours, its not too bad if you go @ silly times like i did.

Drove up Monday night after work, slept in my car, got there for 9ish Tues morning
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Steve Hill motorsport is nearer to you Toad- theres loads of places in Bucks and Oxon as its the motorsport hotspot in the country...
Yes, I'm over there quite a lot. Tom just did new bearings for my rear axle for me. I haven't asked them about the TBs, but I don't think they get involved with the ECU / loom side of things. They certianly don't do any mapping, as they haven't got any rollers. Perhaps they could help install the kit for me, but that still leaves me shy of getting the ECU and all the frighting loom done! Eeeek.
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