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18th April 2010, 07:30
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Fed up with the bitching now guys.
Logan - PM me when you want to post the proof of postage and i will re-open.
Gooch - PM me if you want to add anything else to the thread
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19th April 2010, 13:55
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Proof of postage means nothing and will not help this situation. Proof of receipt is what is required.
Not only buyers need to protect themselves, sellers do too. Sending an item recorded shouldn't cost the seller, you should negotiate postage before completing the deal.
We can't ban someone because someone says so, we need proof.
P90s lights. Its v unlikely that the guy smashed the lights himself wouldn't make sense as he provided pics of the lights and would be a waste of his time to buy something, smash it, then have the hassle of getting his cash back?
The ops problem is with royal mail, if his mum works there, surely she will know or will know someone who can advise the op what to do.
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19th April 2010, 18:30
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good thread
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19th April 2010, 18:45
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We send all royal mail post recorded delivery so we have a record of delivery. Proof of postage is all but useless to everyone involved.
You need a lot to make paypal believe the seller as the buyer holds all the cards. Even then you are unlikely to win.
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19th April 2010, 20:28
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Hence why you no longer use paypal i assume?
With proof of postage i believe you have some level of insurance that you can claim vs Royal Mail after 3 weeks?
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19th April 2010, 21:08
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best i can do! im guessing everyone gunna say cant see shit so not proof.
but why would i waste my time taking pictures and making threads if i was the scammer.. the money wasnt in my paypal so im -43quid, so i could off just made a new account and left that one!
but for those who actaly know me.. heres some proof!
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19th April 2010, 21:31
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Originally Posted by Bickerton
Hence why you no longer use paypal i assume?
With proof of postage i believe you have some level of insurance that you can claim vs Royal Mail after 3 weeks?
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indeed. We now get more security for a cheaper price so its a no brainer.
vtrlogan. What makes you think its not royal mail just 'losing' the item? From experience I know it happens and even with recorded delivery its hard to get your money back...
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19th April 2010, 21:40
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well after he not saying anything for 2 weeks.. then on the second week he pms me saying he dont have it..
now i said it should be with 3-5days.. and he emailed me 15days later now i no if it was me i would off sent messages on the 5th day.
Its to late to do anything now. he won on paypal. and at the moment im far to busy working to go down the post office and try sort it. my mum dont think i will get anything back as we dont have any proof off weather he got the item or not.
Shame really. personaly i think this forum is getting bit annoying.. i made a for sale thread which i personaly fort was a resonable price.. 300 for gti interior with door cards.. then 10 mins later some one replys saying he seen some minter ones go on ebay for 147..
Getting really annoying. after being here for a good few years. just seems like its going down hill.
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19th April 2010, 23:14
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Its a shame that the post office makes you feel that way but calling the guy a liar when you have no proof isn't really on, you're putting sellers off selling to him when no one can prove a thing.
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20th April 2010, 17:29
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Originally Posted by jaybiss
Its a shame that the post office makes you feel that way but calling the guy a liar when you have no proof isn't really on, you're putting sellers off selling to him when no one can prove a thing.
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im putting sellers off him! WTF. giveme a decent camera or a scanner and ill scan it straight in to prove that cunt scammed me. i very much doudt that he didnt recive it. leave it 2 weeks befor you speak to the seller.
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20th April 2010, 18:26
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no. you only have proof you posted it, not proof he received it. thats a fact. things get lost in the post, it happens all the times.
you cant scream and shout calling him a scammer when you have no proof what so ever.
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21st April 2010, 18:43
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Originally Posted by jaybiss
no. you only have proof you posted it, not proof he received it. thats a fact. things get lost in the post, it happens all the times.
you cant scream and shout calling him a scammer when you have no proof what so ever.
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how the fuck is that my fault.. ive posted the item. ive spoken to post office and they say its been sent. lost or not. he didnt contact me till 2 weeks later.. thats a bit late.
utter bullshit. ill soon see him at a show. and ill get my money back.
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21st April 2010, 23:52
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22nd April 2010, 10:22
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Originally Posted by vtrlogan
how the fuck is that my fault.. ive posted the item. ive spoken to post office and they say its been sent. lost or not. he didnt contact me till 2 weeks later.. thats a bit late.
utter bullshit. ill soon see him at a show. and ill get my money back.
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Do you just not understand that MAYBE, just MAYBE it actually did get lost in the post and he DIDN'T receive the item? Mate, you act like an utter cock on this forum if I'm honest, especially after seeing your posts in the Health and Fitness section, you are far too hot headed and you need to calm the fuck down and stop acting like such a chav, cos you do, or maybe you are. Making threats isn't going to get you anywhere at all, I know you think you're some big boxer/cage fighter tough guy, but chill the fuck out and realise not everything in life revolves around it. Maybe you would enjoy your time more on here if you just took a step back and chilled the fuck out.
As for Gooch, my only trading experience on here was with him, and although I was the buyer and it was for a small amount, I found him really good to deal with, spot on in fact. You might be right though Logan, but you are going about this TOTALLY the wrong way.
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22nd April 2010, 13:37
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i lost my 42 quid for a strut brace i paid 60 for.. soo altogether i lost 102quid.. think i have the right to be slightly annoyed.. call me a chav.. couldnt give a shit.. not once have i said im a big time boxer/cage fighter.. i just enjoy it.
and also making threats is going to sort it. as if i now see his car with the strut brace it will be solid proof to me that he scammed me to shit. and which also means i will be taking my strut brace back simple as.
i dont give a shit what any off you think. i no full well i sent this item. dont like the way i act ban me or fuck off.m
simples. been on here for years now.
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22nd April 2010, 14:09
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What you gonna do when you find him at a show and the strut isn't fitted on his car lol?
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22nd April 2010, 15:01
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Originally Posted by vtrlogan
i lost my 42 quid for a strut brace i paid 60 for.. soo altogether i lost 102quid.. think i have the right to be slightly annoyed.. call me a chav.. couldnt give a shit.. not once have i said im a big time boxer/cage fighter.. i just enjoy it.
and also making threats is going to sort it. as if i now see his car with the strut brace it will be solid proof to me that he scammed me to shit. and which also means i will be taking my strut brace back simple as.
i dont give a shit what any off you think. i no full well i sent this item. dont like the way i act ban me or fuck off.m
simples. been on here for years now.
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Once again, you miss the point. Just cos you sent it, doesn't mean it fucking arrived at his house, in which case why the fuck should he pay for it? Nobody disputes you SENT the damn thing, but just because you sent it, doesn't mean he's got it. DO YOU UNDERSTAND?
What if you see him and there is no strut brace? What then? Just gonna mug him for £42? Go and mug any randomer out on the street, cos at the moment, they owe you it as much as he does.
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22nd April 2010, 16:55
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in my eyes he robbed me off 42 pound. wether or not he has my strut brace i shall be asking for my 42quid back. simple as. end off. if he had contacted me explaining the situation i may off felt different, but after just opening a dispuit on paypal with out any warning.
may i add what iff he dfoes have my strut brace.. lol. but let im still a cunt for saying i want my money lol.
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22nd April 2010, 17:06
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get a better pic of that reciept and it's all sorted chap.
That way it proves that you did send the item and it's been lost in the post. Therefore it's not your fault or gooch's.
The only reason we're having difficulty believing this as a forum is because we've not seen any proof of sending other than a blurry pic of a royal mail reciept.
If it turns out that this gooch lad has had the brace off you and is claiming that he didnt recieve it then more fool him and he deserves what's coming to him. But once again there's never going to be any proof that he recieved it.
Dave - Dont think there's any need to get personal and call the lad a chav, he's clearly annoyed and will naturally be hot headed.
Hope this gets sorted out soon,
Tom
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22nd April 2010, 18:31
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Originally Posted by vtrlogan
how the fuck is that my fault.. ive posted the item. ive spoken to post office and they say its been sent. lost or not. he didnt contact me till 2 weeks later.. thats a bit late.
utter bullshit. ill soon see him at a show. and ill get my money back.
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i havent said it your fault have i?
you're acting like a child. think about it.
i send you an item, its not sent recorded.
you dont receive it so make a claim through paypal
you get your money back
now i threaten to see you at a show and take money from you, wouldnt you be rather pissed off????
end of the day even 'if' you see him at a show, you're going to have to blatently mug him as he wont willingly give you the cash back, so then he goes to police, gets his money back 'again' and you get a record. maybe you'll use physical force, give him a punch or two, he'd get money off you for that too...
'if' he does have the strutbrace, it won't be on his car at the show after you've been mouthing off anyway.
use your brain, think before you type as this thread has turned pathetic as you can't prove a thing.
as for the name calling and bad language by yourself and others, stop it as its not needed.
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