Pedal box - Saxperience

adamskiTNR · 3rd December 2010, 17:25

I'm currently in the middle of designing a pedal box as a project on the side of the car. I have since discovered that this isn't the easiest of tasks. I have a done a few sketches of the basic setup and mechanisms. Once i'm happy with it and have gone over the dimensions and referred it to the car i will make a cad model and a few animations to show you guys. Then over time the finished product. I will make a project thread just for it if it goes ahead.
Cheers
Adam

Mochachino · 3rd December 2010, 22:50

Cool stuff mate, will be good to see it progress.

OBP produce some good pedal boxes for the Saxo.

blackie_2k5 · 3rd December 2010, 23:13

looks good mate, if it works well and your comfortable making more you should set up a group buy and see if some fo the members would like one, good price to yourslef and the members

adamskiTNR · 3rd December 2010, 23:42

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Originally Posted by db_sax

Cool stuff mate, will be good to see it progress.

OBP produce some good pedal boxes for the Saxo.

I know they do, but they are really expensive for my budget. And this is more fun.
Plus, i am purposely making mine flat to the floor. Then i can shift my seat back, space the wheel back, and make spacers for the column to bring it down. dtm style for the win

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Originally Posted by blackie_2k5

looks good mate, if it works well and your comfortable making more you should set up a group buy and see if some fo the members would like one, good price to yourslef and the members

Yeah. I will see how it all goes first. It should be a nice end product. powdercoated, nice smooth bearings everywhere, bias bar etc.

Saaamon · 4th December 2010, 20:40

Sounds interesting this, how long untill you get some drawings up?

adamskiTNR · 4th December 2010, 20:50

check the progress threads
i will do significant updates in here

adamskiTNR · 24th December 2010, 00:43

Yay! draft one is complete now! Just finished the clutch linkage. Still a few refinements. And suggestions welcome. i'll need them

raunchz · 25th December 2010, 12:51

The pivot leaver for the clutch cable, id maybe give it a bit of adjustment so you can alter/tweak the ratio of pedal movement to the clutch arm on the gearbox.

Either that or make sure you get the measurements right!!

adamskiTNR · 25th December 2010, 16:30

Yes. don't worry i'm on that. Going to make a load of fitment holes to adjust it down the bar. or maybe a more accurate adjuster somehow. will see

adamskiTNR · 12th January 2011, 00:03

The sloped design is now complete

wolf_gsxr · 14th January 2011, 15:56

designs look spot on mate.possibly a harder return spring for people running gsxr bodies as they make the throttle light an lack "feel" apart from that and adjusters... GET THEM MADE! they designed to sit further forward than origional pedals as there spaced wider?

adamskiTNR · 14th January 2011, 16:11

Cheers
Unfortunately i can't dynamically model the return springs as the design accelerator application for them doesn't seem to work
Yes they are made to sit further back. so seat will be whacked right back on the frames. and the steering wheel will probably need a spacer depending on your arms.
You can kind of see how far they sit back by looking at the slope on the box. obviously the flat bit is the bottom of the slope. the brake and clutch pedals at the pedal pads are 80mm ish in front of the slope edge

wolf_gsxr · 14th January 2011, 16:38

how much would a pedal box like this go for? either if you make it or if i was to go and buy one from a motorsport place? will you be making a set for you car?

adamskiTNR · 14th January 2011, 16:58

A obp pro race pedal box. very similar to this, and the box i got the basic design idea from and the slope (as obp make one direct for saxo/106). £500 ish
As most have stated to me already, there are many cheaper options out there for a 3 pedal pedal box with bias adjustment. like compbrake ones. but i did a lot of market research on the subject at autosport and the compbrake ones were terrible quite frankly. and all these cheap alternatives do not use bearings, they use bronse phosphor bushes. and mine have adjustable throttle progression, High quality ball bearings, made to fit the saxo floor pan.
I will be making one for my own car first. then depending on the experience and budgeting set a price for the pedal box to be sold to select people. but i need to be careful around the subject of safety testing, which i will need to look into before selling any. or find out if i can just get the buyer to sign a disclaimer etc etc.

adamskiTNR · 14th January 2011, 17:00

And also, good luck with finding many pedal boxes that run cable clutch

wolf_gsxr · 14th January 2011, 17:12

ano there all hydraulic. your kit use the existing cable?

adamskiTNR · 14th January 2011, 17:19

yes it uses a cable. but the cable will have to be longer so will be custom from a company. undecided which yet. but if you look there is also the ability to fit a mc and unbolt the cable linkage. simply converting it to hydro clutch

KamRacing · 14th January 2011, 17:40

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Originally Posted by wolf_gsxr

how much would a pedal box like this go for? either if you make it or if i was to go and buy one from a motorsport place? will you be making a set for you car?

AP Racing and Tilton charge nigh on £1500. Stunning engineering though. OBP is a much more palatable option price wise.

adamskiTNR · 14th January 2011, 17:56

was having a chat with tilton. having a nosey around their boxes and taking a few pics. very very nice. but as said about £1300 for the top of the range ones

KamRacing · 14th January 2011, 18:04

The OBP ones look a big crap in pictures in comparison but much better in the flesh. I'm getting one for my own car.