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Old 12th January 2012, 20:05   #1
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going on from the other week, here is the dyno thread post up your graphs and specs, doesnt have to be a saxo, just nice to see what ppl are getting with what mods, and good info for ppl looking at where to spend their money

ill start with mine, brief spec being 90bhp vtr engine, low compression on decomp plate, standard internals, turbo converted with t25 currently, running predator management, pretty tame ignition, if anyone's interested in a more detailed spec it's in my thread- link in sig

got 2 sets of graphs, first one was on 10 psi just after mapping, had issues with exhaust, injectors and fuel,

made 134 ATW, 165Lbft and 163bhp fly, think its around 15-20% transmission loss on this dyno,





next set was about 6 weeks later?, same dyno, same guy,

id put a new exhaust on, new injectors and got a remap @ around 15psi boost, had only just sorted an issue with induction/feed on the morning of the dyno

graph highlighted as i was suspecting, im still having fueling issues, pretty sure now is down to a combination of fuel pump and FPR becuase of other issues i sometimes get, but the car made :

218bhp fly and around 230lbft torque, cant find the wheel graph for this one, but was about 185ATW iirc?





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Old 12th January 2012, 20:36   #2
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AX VTS 16v, Ph3 cams, 3.5 bar FPR, standard injectors, raceland mani, hydra nemesis ecu, straight through exhaust.
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Old 12th January 2012, 20:39   #3
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was that an actual hub dyno as it sais? or was it measured at wheels?
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Piper 270 cams
No remap
Raceland manifold
Some sort of gigantic cone filter
Decat
Piper exhaust
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8v, Green cotton filter, 3" Pugsport, Raceland mani.

103.2bhp @ 5350RPM/~104ft/lb @ ~3300rpm



And here's why I always say a rolling road figure means nothing.


16v, 3" Pugsport, Raceland induction kit.
119.6bhp @ ~6300rpm/113ft/lb @ ~5100rpm


Then on another RR, exactly the same spec as above...

142.8bhp (that's all the info I can gather from the pic).
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Clio 182 standard on dastek rollers


After exhaust and remap

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My old legacy B4
Hayward and Scott exhaust
Decat onnthe 2nd turbo

Spot the gap between the turbos!
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Saxo Vts
Catcam 743's (evo1 on rs graph)
Raceland 4-2-1
Straight through 2 1/2" centre pipe
Magnex rear box
Port & polished throttle body
Remapped

Rs tuning - Leeds - Dyno Dynamics - (Without P&P TB)
144.1 bhp
117.9 whp
18.39% T/loss


Northampton Motorsport - Northampton - Superflow (before & after P&P TB)
151 bhp
126.9 whp
15.961% T/loss


Revlimit is 7750 the last run on the NMS graph revved over for some reason but it didnt effect the power, if anyone can explain that id love to know!

Surrey Rolling Road - Surrey - Dyno Dynamics
141.3 bhp
115.6 whp
18.19% T/Loss
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106 turbo

Td05 big 16g with 8cm2 exh housing
C2 inlet
At power throttle body
680cc injectors
Omex 600 etc etc

249@wheels and 210lb ft torque@wheels at 13psi





Seat leon cupra R

Scorpion cat back
Forge dump valve
Filter
Performance torque stage 1 re-map

262bhp@flywheel and 292lb ft@flywheel


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Peugeot 106 quiksilver with a 1.1 engine and an induction kit


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forced induction* lol.
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8v, Green cotton filter, 3" Pugsport, Raceland mani.

103.2bhp @ 5350RPM/~104ft/lb @ ~3300rpm



And here's why I always say a rolling road figure means nothing.


16v, 3" Pugsport, Raceland induction kit.
119.6bhp @ ~6300rpm/113ft/lb @ ~5100rpm


Then on another RR, exactly the same spec as above...

142.8bhp (that's all the info I can gather from the pic).
What spec engine was that 8v?
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supersprint manifold
btb exhaust
catcams 708
kevlar procomp induction kit

un mapped

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2001, 98bhp.
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my vts spec in signature below
this was before i fitted saxsport and big filter for raceland
plus ther was no fan in front of car

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Saxo VTS 51
Standard - Running on 99RON.
Maha Rollers
136.9 hp (Fly - bullshit), 98.9 hp (Wheels), 108.6 lbft Torque.


Same car, same rollers
Differences are...
Raceland Mani, (a slightly leaky) Magnex centre section, Magnex backbox...
137.4 hp (Fly - still bullshit), 104.1 hp (Wheels), 114.6 lbft Torque.


So a raceland mani and a magnex cat back will give a VTS an extra 5 hp over standard.
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38bhp transmission losses on the first run, and 33bhp on the second run? They're some pretty big losses for a FWD!
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Only ones I have:

My old 172 that I owned last summer, made 180bhp and 162lb/ft Torque:


Mods:
Clio V6 Airbox
ITG Filter
JMS Matched Inlet Manifold
Ktec 2.5" Exhaust
Ktec Decat
RS Tuning Remap

God I really shouldn't have sold that car

My Mk2 VTR made 111bhp and 120lb/ft Torque:


Mods:
Piper 4-1 Manifold
Piper Decat exhaust
BMC CDA Air filter
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38bhp transmission losses on the first run, and 33bhp on the second run? They're some pretty big losses for a FWD!
Exactly. tbh I only pay attention to the wheel figs these days.
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This is my 1998 vts with Magnex twin box system & in-closed induction kit, was well happy. Now iv fitted a Janspeed 4-1 manifold (still has a cat) & superchips chip, will get it on the rollers soon to see the gains.
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