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22nd March 2013, 15:34
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Originally Posted by Rowan
T2 (with T25 housing)
Looks like a tiny hair dryer compared to the Holset...
Maybe if you add a s/c to get it through the low/mid rpm range it could theoretically work.
But as the 8 year old girls say to the vicar: "It's too BIG!!"
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Haha will be similar to the one next to the holset.
And if it doesn't spin it ill add nitrous to the eqaution and see if that helps.
You never know untill you try but the exhaust impellor is 3” and a 2” inlet with a 52mm inducer
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22nd March 2013, 15:45
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#62
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Haha well I think the T2 to the T28 is like the T28 to the Holset 
If you really want to get the Holset on, I would seriously look at mounting the turbo where orignally the battery would be.
You can go balls-out with the design of the manifold.
With the longer runners, equal length and design would have more effect than with a DP-style one.
Plus you can fabricate an optimal take-off for the wastegate.
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22nd March 2013, 15:53
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#63
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Originally Posted by Ross
My old GT30 had about 1/4" clearance from the rad and my rad was moved forward about 3 inches lol. I'll see if I can find you a photo. Really not convinced it'll fit but fill your boots and try 
Edit: Can't find a photo of the clearance but you can see the GT30 is big (Martin has a T3 as well - could ask him for photos albeit it's in an AX?) - dread to think how far forward you'd need the rad with yours lol.
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that looks seriously good, did you do all the work yourself ?
im going to spill the engine is for a 106 gti, as for the intercooler and rad sitting against eachother i will have to look at it. will be running a diesel radiator mocal 13 row oil cooler an 600x300x100 fmic
so much to fit in with so little room but i shall try my hardest
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22nd March 2013, 16:14
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"Home build" - all me and two mates. Mostly my mates as I'm a lazy bastard tbh.
That's similar to my first setup. Put the oil cooler behind a fog light in the bumper. Use a small intercooler as you're doing and mount it low in the bumper (remove the grill mesh but keep the slats otherwise you look a wanker).
Something like this:
stealth:
Under bonnet:
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22nd March 2013, 16:15
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here is the car the engine is going in, 106 gti.
bmc carbon induction kit
sfs hose
4-1 manifold
ported and polished tb
pugsport system
205 wheels just been sprayed with brand new tyres
uprated speakers
spax suspension 40mm with dampeners
brand new shafts
compbrake quickshift
cost : £0.00 
my brother is buying a new car as he cannot be arsed to change the headgasket on this 106, so he said if i lent him some money for a car i could have this, for free.
will get more pics on saturday when it will change hands
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22nd March 2013, 16:18
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looks nice - but please change the white gti badges
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22nd March 2013, 16:20
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thats very impressive ross and yeah i will be trying to hide the fact its got a turbo on but it just depends how much i have to move forwards when the holset goes in.
will have to make a load of new brackets as i doubt the ones off my 8v will fit. and i seriously hate making that kind of stuff.
the joys
edit, i may put 1.1 in its place 
Last edited by robster247; 22nd March 2013 at 16:25.
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23rd March 2013, 14:23
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Lucky.. Getting things for free, always wished I could get things like that lol
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23rd March 2013, 14:45
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Move your rad to one side, and use a civic alloy rad, this what I've done/doing.
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23rd March 2013, 14:46
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Lucky.. Getting things for free, always wished I could get things like that lol
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Haha, also got the holset for free too 
Just a shame I won't get pistons an rods for free haha
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23rd March 2013, 15:13
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If you flip the turbo round so ex is on gearbox side you can have it close to the engine and end up with loads of room like mine
Plus it stops you worrying about cooking alternators
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23rd March 2013, 21:48
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Originally Posted by blackie_2k5
If you flip the turbo round so ex is on gearbox side you can have it close to the engine and end up with loads of room like mine
Plus it stops you worrying about cooking alternators
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Was thinking of this, but I'm going to stuggle with the exhaust as it 3” haha
When. Car I will see where the turbo will sit and have enough room around it first
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24th March 2013, 08:32
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The exhaust would then sit on the correct side to route under the sump - and there's no problems routing a 3" exhaust in the bay then under the sump
Give it some more thought!
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24th March 2013, 08:58
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#74
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Pit the turbo above the gearbox and there isloads of room
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24th March 2013, 12:15
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It's defo worth some thought, I've got loads of room in mine and rad is in oe position etc aswel
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24th March 2013, 12:22
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Just having trouble seeing where the holset will go as my engine is only on the stand with no box.
And haven't got the 106 yet as my brother couldn't go pick his new car up as where I'm at there is shit loads of snow so the A66 is closed 
Will have more updates next saturday when I hopefuly get the pug. But I think the turbo will go where the box is, if not sell it and put the money towards a gt28rs.
Only time will tell
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25th March 2013, 18:02
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#77
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Intercooler landed today, and well I think I won't be able to keep the front end subtle.
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25th March 2013, 18:27
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#78
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rowan
T2 (with T25 housing)
Looks like a tiny hair dryer compared to the Holset...
Maybe if you add a s/c to get it through the low/mid rpm range it could theoretically work.
But as the 8 year old girls say to the vicar: "It's too BIG!!"
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Twin charged baby! Supercharger or a small turbo being fed by a hoofing great big one! Relocate the battery and stuff the big turbo there and a small one in front of the block.
Quote:
Originally Posted by ThrushMotorsport
Lucky.. Getting things for free, always wished I could get things like that lol
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Me too! lol
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25th March 2013, 19:19
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#79
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Looks like a gt4 intercooler with 3" inlet/outlet. You'll really struggle to fit that. I tried fitting one and gave up on my first build. Just no room for it in the bumper.
Gt3 intercooler is the right one IMO. Hope my eyes deceive me and its a gt3 
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25th March 2013, 19:34
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Meassures 600x300x100 with 3” in/outlet
Paid £45 for it and it is brand new still in the box, that's the only reason I got it haha
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