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Old 3rd November 2008, 18:59   #1
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im ordering my cam hopefully this week for next week and was just wondering if im best going for the newman cam ph1 or ph3

i just want power thats going to throw you back when you put your foot down, kinda like more instant power

as some people know i got a raceland 4-2-1 manifold, supersprint race exhaust including race centre pipe and back box along with raceland induction + green filter

so to add to some 'throw back' power which would be better for this the ph1 with revs from 1500-5500 or the ph3 with revs from 3000-7000
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Old 3rd November 2008, 19:38   #2
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id go for the ph 3 mate
its a standard choice to get a good poke from you car
should see about 150 from it with a good map
that gives a good kick when you give it some foot down action
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Old 3rd November 2008, 19:50   #4
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but wouldnt i need to be in a high rev to get a good kick from a ph3?

also 150bhp with a good map? you know its a vtr not a vts dont you? lol
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id go for the ph 3 mate
its a standard choice to get a good poke from you car
should see about 150 from it with a good map
that gives a good kick when you give it some foot down action
150 from an 8v no way.
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Low end grunt is what makes a car feel quick, if the power builds gradually like a tuned N/A car, then you don't notice it as much as stamping the throttle at 2k rpm and getting pushed into your seat...

Also... 150 bhp from a VTR with a cam? Really?
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150 from an 8v no way.
apologies i thought he had a vts
prolly about 120 ish from a vtr


tbh you spend more time around 3k whilst driving anyway so its a good cam the ph1 starts too low down the revs imo
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so if i get a ph3 il put my foot down and when it hits 3k i will feel a slight increase in pulling power?
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1500-5500 id doubt will be much wilder than standard though tbh. so wouldnt give 'throw back power'
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as i said mate, if i get a ph3 il put my foot down and when it hits 3k i will feel a slight increase in pulling power?
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youll feel a little kick as the car comes into the power like
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are there any other mods that will help improve it? would tb's give it more kick?
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your best charging it over bodies also as said you want ph3 or not worth it
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just a quick question...

when i get my newman cam fitted do they fit the cam and time it up as standard timing untill i get it remapped?
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if you can be bothered, soure a s2 rallye head, put a cat cam 645 in and you'll be getting close to mid 140's and the torque will be amazing, will give a good kick which is what you want.
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anybody answer my above question?
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that will be the last thing added if i add it, any ideas about the cam question 2 posts up?
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just a quick question...

when i get my newman cam fitted do they fit the cam and time it up as standard timing untill i get it remapped?
they will time it for that cam and it will be tweeked when mapped
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so it would be no good getting the cam fitted and timing it as standard then untill i get it remapped
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