lightening the load is it worth it?? - Saxperience

admad · 15th July 2009, 19:15

im thinking of stripping my vts out a bit to make it bit lighter on its feet only thing i was wondering is will it handle as well wen its lighter coz wen i bought the car it was standard inside and felt 2 light on corners etc but since then i put a massive ice install in and apart from makin the music sound spot on it seems to be better handling jus worried that it will be worse than it was b4 with no ice, and will it actually make that much difference its tweaked up to 158bhp and still pulls really well with the system

MiniGibbo · 15th July 2009, 20:07

The more weight you take out the more "light on its feet" the carll feel, just somthing you have to account for with your throttle responce.

Harder suspension and better tyres help to a point but imho only on track. Mines as hard as a whores nipple and is shit around town even with the interior.

admad · 15th July 2009, 20:30

yh i get u m8 mines lowered alot and riding on low profiles it helps it not roll but it feels 2 twitchy on bends at speed the steerings 2 light these cars would feel better without power steering i think, yh i know wot u mean i dont mind the car it is shit driving it anywhere but on smooth tarmac, i only bought the car coz i got it so ridiculously cheep saxos never been my thing evry1s got em but now i think its pretty fun t drive

rejimbo · 15th July 2009, 20:40

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Originally Posted by admad

yh i get u m8 mines lowered alot and riding on low profiles it helps it not roll but it feels 2 twitchy on bends at speed the steerings 2 light these cars would feel better without power steering i think, yh i know wot u mean i dont mind the car it is shit driving it anywhere but on smooth tarmac, i only bought the car coz i got it so ridiculously cheep saxos never been my thing evry1s got em but now i think its pretty fun t drive

Ummm that pretty much explains why your car is shit to drive on anything but smooth tarmac.

MiniGibbo · 15th July 2009, 20:44

Thats one thing that lets saxos down is the fact they dont have a lot of feeling back through the wheel.

And little pedals lol.

admad · 15th July 2009, 21:00

yh it took some getting used 2 with the pedals lol u can see wot other cars i have this is like a tiny little toy compared to them i may have it put on standard springs coz it dont need t be like a go kart with the state of britains rds, think with wot ur saying the install and trim staying in its lite enough plus im gonna be selling it soon as not my cuppa tea lol

Sparco_Tom · 15th July 2009, 22:03

have a search there is another big thread about weight loss going on

Ste · 15th July 2009, 22:07

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Originally Posted by MiniGibbo

The more weight you take out the more "light on its feet" the carll feel, just somthing you have to account for with your throttle responce.

Harder suspension and better tyres help to a point but imho only on track. Mines as hard as a whores nipple and is shit around town even with the interior.

Totally agree, i always thought lift off oversteer was only felt in supercars. When i stripped mine out and put the grp boot on i thought id totally fucked the car up but after some tweaking of the dampers and learning how to make the car do what i want it was much better.

Best thing ive ever done to my car was strip it. To the max. Thanks to Don55 for the inspiration to fuck up my doors

admad · 15th July 2009, 22:13

now ur making reconsider it ste ill have a look see wot the threads saying i am also cocsidering getting it turbo'd and getting it track prepared coz thats sumat i always wanted to do , was considering getting my prelude track ready but dont think the 4 wheel steering is alll its cracked up to be its good for slow speeds but high speed would feel safer with rigid rear wheels cheers m8

MiniGibbo · 16th July 2009, 18:02

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Originally Posted by admad

now ur making reconsider it ste ill have a look see wot the threads saying i am also cocsidering getting it turbo'd and getting it track prepared coz thats sumat i always wanted to do , was considering getting my prelude track ready but dont think the 4 wheel steering is alll its cracked up to be its good for slow speeds but high speed would feel safer with rigid rear wheels cheers m8

4ws only works at parking speeds, its turnt off over 2 or 3mph iirc.

And is a rare option to begin with on 5gen's

admad · 16th July 2009, 18:08

it doesnt turn off at all m8 it steers with the front wheels over 20kmh and against the front under 20kmh not sure wot gen it is but its a 92 plate top spec'd import 1

MiniGibbo · 16th July 2009, 18:13

id surgest Googlling that before replying again.

admad · 16th July 2009, 21:10

whys that?

141chris141 · 17th July 2009, 02:38

completly strip or dont strip at all!!

gouldy87 · 17th July 2009, 18:06

yes, weight is the enemy

JamesR^m · 17th July 2009, 18:07

Just losing say 50kg will give a noticable, worth while difference.

MiniGibbo · 17th July 2009, 18:18

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Originally Posted by SaXo_vtr123

Just losing say 50kg will give a noticable, worth while difference.

50kg out fo a saxo. Thats not a "light" strip thats nearly half the car

admad · 17th July 2009, 20:05

t be fair if i take out the ice it wud be 50 kgs or more its a big install does sound the tits tho 142 db measured with no distortion which to give u an idea is about as loud as standing next to a concord when it takes off!!

Junaid · 17th July 2009, 20:10

it should make it quicker from 0-60
but cornering i dont think so
my saxo lifts in the corners sometimes cuz they so light standard

admad · 17th July 2009, 20:14

yh i hear u m8 mine was 2 light b4 the ice usually wen i put it in my car i lose some accelaration but in the vts i dint notice 2 much of a loss but the handlings so much better actually feels like it is pushed into the road now