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17th August 2009, 11:51
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who made up that vtr internals are better for boost than 16v?
you should read some good books about engines, turboing and mapping before you start on this imo. and read through the progress threads of cars that have been turbo'd successfully.
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17th August 2009, 15:00
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your drive shaft should be fine with the power as long as you dont drive like a d1ck..
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18th August 2009, 06:30
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What sort of power would you get from a vtr on low boost say 5-6psi? And a vts? Just to see the differnce in power because may look at doing my vtr engine on low boost for the time being. If got a vts engine done id rebuild it just so i know everythings new and been changed so less likely to go bang.
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18th August 2009, 08:18
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What sort of power would you get from a vtr on low boost say 5-6psi? And a vts?
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Depends how well its done but 130 140 ish
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18th August 2009, 09:48
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Is that all.
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18th August 2009, 10:38
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What sort of power would you get from a vtr on low boost say 5-6psi? And a vts? Just to see the differnce in power because may look at doing my vtr engine on low boost for the time being. If got a vts engine done id rebuild it just so i know everythings new and been changed so less likely to go bang.
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why would you only rebuild the vts? if you going to rebuild a engine to turbo it i dont think it would matter if it was a vts or vtr as you would run mad power out of both.... thats if you mean forge in the rebuild...
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18th August 2009, 10:48
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Well if got forged to run big power then id only do to vts as no point spending silly money on vtr but if just wanted a low boost set up then wouldnt change internals and go for vtr engine as was looking at the mani of vtr t on here that he has forsale atm. But not sure to go turbo or bodies although the sound of bodies would be good and be more reliable on the cheaper option but would deffinately prefer to turbo if can so for same sort of money. Would like to get car around 0-60 in 7 secs and about 180bhp so 200bhp per tonne roughly.
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18th August 2009, 10:54
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Was thinking of either 1.8t 20v turbo off a golf or something or a r5 turbo. Or what would be better? What injectors should i get or keep standards. Think im going to go for vtr turbo atm and get used to the power and tbh my vtr is quite quick enough for me for the time being but my car will be becoming a track/ weekend car.
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19th August 2009, 06:08
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19th August 2009, 23:15
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yes mate that would be fat! but alot of money... well worth it tho. hmmm wat more would you get out of a vts than a vtr? if the waas both forged n and uprated the same??? i believe the vtr would be better....
yea most people use a t2,t3,t4,t15,t25 turbo, i think im gonna change myn to a t 25 next year when i get my vtr forged.
if your gonna just get the usual low boost set up and run a fith injector then your standard injectors should be ok, but im sure some1 said injectors out of a clio sport would be a gd upgrde...
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20th August 2009, 06:08
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Well was going to just get bigger injectors rather than put a 5th injector in for future when go for more power maybe. What sort of power do you think could get from a forged vtr engine? And what psi could run it at?
Also how do you change the psi on a turbo setup? If got standalone is there any good cheaper ones about? Why would you say vtr better than s?
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21st August 2009, 07:36
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What power would vtr turbo run at 5-6psi? about 150? Would i be able to go somewhere that makes universal exhausts to build me a downpipe or that not possible?
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21st August 2009, 09:38
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if you get your vtr forged, then you could run 400+bhp if you wated and got the money too.. if youcan keeit on the road.
luthor1 on here has done his own ecu for the vts and is makin on for the vtr now. i will be trying his ecu once its done. you can find it on here its called the predator ecu...
5-6 psi could give you anywhere between 140-200 depending on the rest of your set up.
you can change the psi with a bost controll valve...
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21st August 2009, 09:55
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How much are the boost control valves? Which one is a good one also? Would it be worth getting turbo timer too.
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21st August 2009, 10:53
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http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/UNIVERSAL-MANU...d=p3286.c0.m14
that is similar to the one i recently baught,
yea a turbo timer will look after you turbo, dont just buy a cheap one, i got a cheap on and its shit... dont even work lol. i will be buying a new one soon.
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22nd August 2009, 08:21
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I think im going to go vts turbo with low boost at first as went in one last night that was running 5 psi and has 180 bhp. I prefer the look of vts engine too as vtrs look abit pewney lol.
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22nd August 2009, 10:17
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you wont turbo anything, you'll just keep dreaming...
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22nd August 2009, 11:52
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What the fuck do you know what i will and wont do to my car? How am i dreaming!
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22nd August 2009, 12:09
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alot i think and then change your mind. Face it, it'll never happen.
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22nd August 2009, 13:10
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if you go for "propper" standalone managment youll get alot more gains and more reliability i think.
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