Infraction System (Red/yellow cards) - Page 8 - Saxperience

Luke · 18th September 2006, 17:56

Cheers Jay, I don't think it will effect me either because imo I have never caused trouble on here or done anything bad.

Barry123 · 18th September 2006, 17:56

interesting point cloudy

James · 18th September 2006, 17:56

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Originally Posted by Luke

feels like every move is getting watched.

Theres a rule for that luke, that 'stalking' one if i stand correct. Get the mod who warns you banned for stalking.. Guess it dosent work both ways though. Also if we cant swear... why is there a smile provoking it..

Luke · 18th September 2006, 17:57

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Originally Posted by b0t13

ditto, i also feel that the site is fine how it is without these little extra things to keep us inline although there is good reasoning behind it, i dont really want to watch what i type all the time.

I wasn't meaning by what we type, because I don't type rubbish or offensive things anyway.

That doesn't bother me..

jaybiss · 18th September 2006, 17:57

where does it state where you cannot swear?

cloud read the whole thread as your points have been brought up already

jaybiss · 18th September 2006, 17:58

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Originally Posted by Simo

Inappropriate language doesn't necessarily have to be swearing.

James · 18th September 2006, 17:59

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Originally Posted by jaybiss

where does it state where you cannot swear?

cloud read the whole thread as your points have been brought up already

Why should i..., at the end of the day im saying my opinion.. not reading what other people think because in all honestlly i couldent give a ....

Luke · 18th September 2006, 17:59

We all know the mods cannot not watch us 24/7, that isn't possible and it isn't possible for them to go through every thread.

I'm not acting like I'm taking this too seriously, because I'm not.

jaybiss · 18th September 2006, 18:02

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Originally Posted by Cloud

Why should i..., at the end of the day im saying my opinion.. not reading what other people think because in all honestlly i couldent give a ....

if you read the thread though james, youll see its not being watched 24/7 etc

its a good move imo and not many people will know its there

Mark^p · 18th September 2006, 18:28

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Originally Posted by Cloud

You make rules for kids not adults

Without rules for kids and adults, society would quickly degrade into chaos. Kids may not understand rules, adults should.

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Originally Posted by Cloud

i honestlly cannot see how someone gets upset about some swearing.

I am saddened by much of the swearing I see, but it doesn't mean I am going to take action over it. It is a free world blah blah blah... but if someone goes too far then it becomes an issue.

I've known people say I am a miserable moderator - I'm an adult I can take that - everyone has their own opinion.

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Originally Posted by Cloud

It just seams to me this site is becoming extreme..

The rules of the site have not been changed. The only change is that a new system has been introduced to handle trouble if and when it happens, a system that is fairer to all and more transparent. There are other forums on the Internet where moderators issue bans for no apparent reason and people often feel they have been mistreated unfairly. The infraction system is designed precisely to prevent this. Not only can we keep troublemakers in check, but the general population also get to understand what the moderators are doing.

Reading some of the posts in this thread, some people are taking this FAR TOO SERIOUSLY! For the vast majority of decent respectful Saxperience members this system will have no noticible impact on their enjoyment of Saxperience.

Somewhere in this thread "inappropriate language" has been confused with "swearing", when they are not necessarily the same thing.

Much more goes on behind the scenes than most would realise to enable everyone to enjoy this forum. This system is being introduced to make things better for ALL the Saxperience members, not to give moderators power kicks. The mods/admins donate a lot of their own free time (unpaid) to ensure that Saxperience runs smoothly and trouble free.

Surely something that makes their job a little easier and helps people see that the mods take an active interest in guiding the community isn't so bad. I believe that Saxperience will benefit from this system and hopefully people will appreciate that in time.

Scott^p · 18th September 2006, 18:49

Adults? I must have missed when some of you have been able to act like adults for example the swearing, yes i do it but would i miss it or whine about it? No i wouldnt i have an extensive enough vocabulary to get by without it.

The reaction to some of this has been postively pathetic, there have been genuine misunderstandings but the cool dudes who think they can post what they wish and not give a donkey about what other people think are the ones that will be affected by this. This is a forum not somewhere that you can practice what you please.

Its already been clearly explained that you will be allowed to have your swearing, it will be excessive abusive swearing that will be targetted and repremanded.

Simo^p · 18th September 2006, 18:56

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Originally Posted by Cloud

Im 18 not 6... this site is becoming more like work/school everyday. I come on here to relax and talk with friends not read through every single post i make just because i might 'offend' someone or have a naughty swear word in it. You make rules for kids not adults who come on here for a laugh and a bit of banter..

Everyone in life needs to have consideration for the feelings of other people. If you dont have respect for other peoples feelings, then you should expect for your own feelings not to be respected too.

At the end of the day, you don't have to 'tolerate' this system or any new system, which is put in place for the benefit of the community. You have the option to logon... as far as I'm aware no user of Saxperience is forced to use the community?

A phrase often used at the place I work... 'deal with it!'

James · 18th September 2006, 19:07

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Originally Posted by Simo

Everyone in life needs to have consideration for the feelings of other people. If you dont have respect for other peoples feelings, then you should expect for your own feelings not to be respected too.

At the end of the day, you don't have to 'tolerate' this system or any new system, which is put in place for the benefit of the community. You have the option to logon... as far as I'm aware no user of Saxperience is forced to use the community?

A phrase often used at the place I work... 'deal with it!'

If i wished to have my 'feelings' respected than i would of come running a long time ago, an example;

Some one made a comment about my girlfriend the other week, i dident cry about it I simply resolved it with that person and it wont happen again... I dont need rules to protect me. As my mother used to say 'Your big enough and ugly enough to look after yourself'. Now if people cannot take a bit of banter on the internet to me that says allot about that person.

As a premium member on this site i would expect to at least have my opinion voiced before such a sytem has been envoked, I paid my money for a site what i enjoyed at the time.. now if your not willing to ask the members opinions who keep this site afloat before you implent such a big system thats saying something.

In all honesty i do not understand how you and your mods expect everyone to be hands down happy about this, you made a thread asking for 'opinions'. Iv'e just made my opinion as clear as i could and youve said 'i have the choice to logon'. Your looking at this the wrong way.. Why should i not have a choice to logon.. thats not my problem. I can go on with this all day Simo but im going to stop now because i simply cant be arsed to fight to have my opinion voiced in a reasonable manner.

Scott^p · 18th September 2006, 19:16

thats exactly it you havent voiced it in a reasonable manner. You have only looked at it from your point of view how you feel, we have to look at a much wider angle than that and your in the minority when you say:

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'Your big enough and ugly enough to look after yourself'. Now if people cannot take a bit of banter on the internet to me that says allot about that person.

People dont come here to take, what you think, is banter unfortunately its a bad world where people do take offence to things being said to them whether it be on the internet or in real life.

Also without actualyl taking the time to read the thread again you have chosen to not look at your opinion first off. You have taken the infractions guidelines far to seriously, if you had taken the 10 minutes to have a quick read then you would have seen that your concerns had already been covered and answered.

This is not a hitler like change, its another tool that can be used to bring people into line. And ill repeat for you that things havent changed from before these were implemented, no infractions have been issued, people are still swearing and still posting in the wrong place. So i ask you to reconsider your opinion because effectively nothing has changed theres just something else in the back ground and chances are it may never affect you.

Yates · 18th September 2006, 19:18

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James · 18th September 2006, 19:25

So Scott, if i am to voice my opinion and call you a cunt thats ok?, i wont get a 'red card' and get sent off will I?

At the end of the day you have asked for opinions and i gave you mine, now if you wanted all happy comments why dident you make a thread called 'Happy thoughts only'. From my view your fighting to win people over not debating an issue. Sax-p dosent need a freaking ban system.. Its members are 18+ on average, if they cannot take a warning from a mod/admin then ban them and they will change there tune. At the end of the day scott you have no voice of reason, this HAS been added full stop. You do not wish to hear what people think unless its a good comment. Like i said i arnt going to argue this for years with you. PM if you wish to talk, i wont do it on here.

Mark^p · 18th September 2006, 19:27

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Originally Posted by Cloud

Its members are 18+ on average, if they cannot take a warning from a mod/admin then ban them and they will change there tune.

The system we have introduced is MUCH MUCH fairer than that. I'm puzzled now?

Yates · 18th September 2006, 19:27

not sure about card, but i think its defo a penalty

oz_borne^p · 18th September 2006, 20:14

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Originally Posted by Cloud

So Scott, if i am to voice my opinion and call you a cunt thats ok?, i wont get a 'red card' and get sent off will I?

At the end of the day you have asked for opinions and i gave you mine, now if you wanted all happy comments why dident you make a thread called 'Happy thoughts only'. From my view your fighting to win people over not debating an issue. Sax-p dosent need a freaking ban system.. Its members are 18+ on average, if they cannot take a warning from a mod/admin then ban them and they will change there tune. At the end of the day scott you have no voice of reason, this HAS been added full stop. You do not wish to hear what people think unless its a good comment. Like i said i arnt going to argue this for years with you. PM if you wish to talk, i wont do it on here.

Calling somone a 'cnut' in a way in which is deemed abusive, will get you a warning.....yes.

thoughts are asked for because we are a fair set of mods. We have been discussing this for weeks, and we won't know if it works for weeks to come. If some of our members were to come up with a brilliant suggestion which would compliment/improve the infractions system, we would be silly to not add it to the system.

Your thoughts are your thoughts. the infractions system is part of the recent update and so is a worthwhile and fair way to moderate the site.

Cloud you know me, and know how i work but recently the forum has become harder to moderate. Everyone has a set of guidlines to live by which is just the way society works. Up till now.....6 years, i believe, Saxp has never needed 'rules' but in recent months we could......but won't.....drag up threads which dictate the necessity for the infractions system.

it's good to see people believe we are fair and we will remain so even with this system.

Martsax · 18th September 2006, 20:42

I better behave then