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8th April 2012, 11:46
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hmm my 1997 has the thicker nut e.g the pic on the left?
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11th May 2012, 15:09
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ok so i see the difference in driveshafts but has anyone got any pics of hubs that match the shafts or are they all the same. its just i have oine tapered shaft and one flat on my vtr.
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11th May 2012, 20:45
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there are two types of hubs as the same as driveshafts, if you have tapered driveshafts you should have tapered hubs aswell. and flat seat hubs for flat seat driveshafts. so two different types guys
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8th July 2012, 17:41
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i have a 2000 reg 106 gti with abs, is this likely to be tapered?
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8th July 2012, 17:48
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this should be a sticky imo.
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8th July 2012, 17:50
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Nah so my 2002 vtr will be tapered yeah?
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8th July 2012, 18:39
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the above should be tapered yea
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25th August 2012, 10:10
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Sorry if im being blind or anything but is the tappered bit on gearbox side or hubside? My 1.4 shafts are on a 2000 mk2 shell with single plug ecu none crossover loom. So would be confusing to know which shaft i need.
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25th August 2012, 10:17
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Sorry just noticed i am being blind, hubnuts are on the bloody tims lol. Never mind
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4th March 2013, 22:04
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Sorry to bring this up. but can any one show the differance in the flange the spline goes into. and are the wheel bearings different too
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4th March 2013, 23:02
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4th March 2013, 23:59
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Quote:
Originally Posted by manic
Sorry to bring this up. but can any one show the differance in the flange the spline goes into. and are the wheel bearings different too
manic
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Wheel bearings differ yes
Taper are 33mm i d (iirc)
Where as (again iirc) flat are 32mm
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5th March 2013, 00:05
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Originally Posted by Gavstaa
so what you reckon my 1997 1.0 will be?
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3 stud models have their own special tapered shaft.
if it's 4 stud, it'll be flat.
UNLESS it's had a different wheel bearing fitted.
Also, a tapered bearing is obviously got a taper.
the hole in a straight shaft accepting bearing is flat. like a proper cylinder.
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5th March 2013, 00:40
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The bearing itself isnt tapered the hub is
The bearing has a larger inner diameter to accomodate the hub having a taper
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5th March 2013, 04:39
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From the front of the flange tho there is one that is about 10mm thick all the way round and the other is about the same but has cut outs reduceing the thickness inbetween the tapped holes .
is the consistant size a later tappered hub
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18th December 2013, 21:47
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Originally Posted by Mochachino
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I have a Y reg VTR MK2 (2001) This is post 2000 but on the cross over transition so I can only assume that I too have a tapered shaft?
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18th December 2013, 22:54
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Tapered vs non Tapered driveshafts`
It's safe to say a 2001 car will. My 1999 car has tapered mk2 shafts so the cross over period was the mk1 silvertop 90bhp models I reckon . Hub nut tells you all you need to know anyway big one is tapered shaft
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22nd December 2013, 20:59
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BASICALLY
If you have a 3 plug ECU, you've got tapered gear standard.
If it's single plug, it's non taper.
If you've got 3 stud, then you have your own unique tapered shaft and hub special regardless of year.
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23rd December 2013, 14:45
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MartinObviously
BASICALLY
If you have a 3 plug ECU, you've got tapered gear standard.
If it's single plug, it's non taper.
If you've got 3 stud, then you have your own unique tapered shaft and hub special regardless of year.
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Mines single plug and tapered though 
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28th December 2013, 12:02
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gandi699
Mines single plug and tapered though
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It's not the standard hubs then (or engine?) :suspicious:
there are "3" phases, not 2.
easier to explain with 106's. There's mk1, mk2 and mk3.
mk2 and 3 are S2's. mk3 changes to ECU plug, hubs, digi dash etc.
1992-1996, 1996-1999, 1999-2003 
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