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26th November 2008, 21:49
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westcoast rallye
has anyone on here done a westcoast rallye conversion if so could you tell me what i need besisdes the obvious or of any good sites with info on it i allready have a rallye head ecu an wireing loom an intake
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26th November 2008, 22:20
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bump...
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26th November 2008, 23:08
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what are you asking?? puting the 1.3 rallye engine in? or thorrtle boddied rallye slag?
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27th November 2008, 00:12
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do rallye heads go on westcoasts, the channals or whatever dont line up properly irc.
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27th November 2008, 09:38
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Quote:
Originally Posted by db_sax
do rallye heads go on westcoasts, the channals or whatever dont line up properly irc.
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they are both tu engines
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27th November 2008, 09:38
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a 16v vts/gti engine is a TU but u cant slap a head off that one a tu3jp
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27th November 2008, 09:44
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rallye heads not 16v though is it
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27th November 2008, 09:49
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Originally Posted by willo-1
rallye heads not 16v though is it
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i woulda thought its like putting a xsi head on, still 8v still 1.4 but u cant couse the lines dont line up mate.
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27th November 2008, 10:57
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if you mean dropping the engine in it can be done yes
pretty straight forward
only thing is the s1 (the 1.3 s2 was a 1.6) ecu mount is different
can be sorted by putting the saxo mount on the rallye engine
or welding the rallye cradle into the saxo shell
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oh really.....
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27th November 2008, 21:06
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putting a rallye head on i already know they fit just wanted to find a bit of info on what i need
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28th November 2008, 21:50
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anyone???
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30th November 2008, 19:53
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why not just buy a 1.3 rallye? but am not sure on what you need to put the head on. the 1.3 rallye has around 100-103bhp standard anyway which is faster then vtrs.
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30th November 2008, 23:11
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anyone???
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1st December 2008, 09:37
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Quote:
Originally Posted by db_sax
a 16v vts/gti engine is a TU but u cant slap a head off that one a tu3jp
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The 16v Head actually does line up however it will never work due to other parts not aligning etc.
The 8v heads are almost identical. if you wanted a rallye head you would need the inlet, TB, Wiring and ecu to make it work properly.
I have seen it work a few times and sometimes getting nearly 120bhp with breathing mods. however that seems a bit high.
Just go straight for 16v if your spending that sort of money. it is 120bhp to start with and is very revvy. the better base you start with the better
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1st December 2008, 21:45
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6th December 2008, 19:13
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anyone got any videos of one working i bought a full engine for 100 quid cuz the piston rings are fooked an the head is mint
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6th December 2008, 20:06
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Quote:
Originally Posted by db_sax
i woulda thought its like putting a xsi head on, still 8v still 1.4 but u cant couse the lines dont line up mate.
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Not so, they fit fine. Actually the 1.3 106 rally uses the same block as the alloy 1.4. The 106 1.6 XSI, 106 1.4 XSI, 106 1.6 Rallye, 106 1.3 Rallye and Saxo 1.6 VTR heads all fit any of the TU 1.4 blocks.
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6th December 2008, 20:11
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Quote:
Originally Posted by willo-1
rallye heads not 16v though is it
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On mainland Europa they did sell a 16V 106 rallye however we mever got that in the UK. We got the 1.6 8V rallye that has a engine very similar to the 106 1.6 XSI and the 1.3 8V rally that was effectively a XSI head on the alloy 1.4 block but with a custom short stroke crank that was only ever in the 1.3 rallye and sport engines.
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