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24th January 2011, 22:31
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Established Member
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Helensburgh
Posts: 1,206
Car(s): Cammed Ph2 VTS
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'cammed' vts advice please
Im about to go and spend my hard earned money on a supposedly cammed VTS. now im pretty swept up on mechanics, but is there any external engine mods that might point to a cammed 16v? mods, markings, pulleys etc? i presume to run properly the cam would have to be setup with verniers to time it correctly?
The seller has mentioned that at times the idle can be lumpy, due to this. Im pretty sure that if someone could be arsed putting a cam in, they would have set it up properly, so im taking that with a pinch of salt and feel it could be a duff ICV or vacuum leak.
Could it be that its just not been setup?
Any of the above ring true, rought idle associated with being cammed?
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24th January 2011, 22:32
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Saxperience Forum Bum
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Chester
Posts: 2,850
Car(s): 1275 mini
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cammed cars will tend to not idle as good if not mapped
sounds like it could be cammed but needs mapping to get the most out of the cam and better running etc, could be a good reason to barter with the guy selling the car tbh as it needs mapping ideally.
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24th January 2011, 22:33
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Central South
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: East Sussex
Posts: 3,105
Car(s): VTS :)
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Could always ask to pop the cam cover off to see if the cams have any manufacture info.
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24th January 2011, 22:36
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Saxperience Addict
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Solihull / Bournemouth
Posts: 14,233
Car(s): 2015 Lapiz Blue Golf R
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just be careful, if there's no receipts for cams then it could just be a dodgy sensor?
IMO if spending £1k+ on a car with mods, i'd at least want to make sure the mods are there (if that's why you're looking at this car over standard ones)
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24th January 2011, 22:39
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Saxperience Forum Bum
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Meerkat Harborough
Posts: 2,638
Car(s): Saxo vtr mk 2
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cams shouldnt run rough on idle really. as above cam covers off and have a look. will need some small torx screwdrivers. if there sealed down/doesnt want you to take the covers off, buy it as a standard engined car..many a car sold as 'cammed' but not actually anything of the sort. ask the question where it was mapped/setup, place names and location, then ask to see receipts too, see if it tally's
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24th January 2011, 22:39
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Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Europe
Posts: 1,611
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Is it a single or 3 plug ecu?
as 3 plugs never run fine once cammed. I had a cammed vts 3 plug and it idled crap had to keep the revs on.
imo id never get a cammed 16v again, much prefer a normal 16v with filter exhaust ect.
only worth going cams if your going to get a standalone ecu and get it mapped proper.
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25th January 2011, 08:21
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Established Member
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Helensburgh
Posts: 1,206
Car(s): Cammed Ph2 VTS
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I spoke to the seller, and he thought just throwing a cam in would be it. Its not been mapped or anythng.
I honestly am tempted to get it, reinstall standard cams and sell these on. Kents he says, although he hasnt got receipts he did show me an ebay seller he reckons he got them from.
Ive already started barting with the lad, im going to be buying it as standard as the covers are sealed down funnily enough. Laziness if you ask me.
When i get it home, ill whip the covers off and see if theres any numbers scribed into them. If it just turns out to be a sensor its still no real loss for a £20 sensor somewhere.
Do these have an idle control valve?
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25th January 2011, 10:48
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Regular Poster
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Chesterfield
Posts: 263
Car(s): BMW 330d, Arctic Steel Silver TU5JP4, 1.8 Focus
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Yes to the ICV.
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