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2nd October 2008, 15:41
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Simple guide to fit a S1 rallye inlet and t/b onto a vtr
Here's a quick guide which goes over all the connections that were required to fit the inlet onto my vtr (and it all worked fine).
The idle control value stay's on the left of the inlet and can be connected like so:
This is how i connected the map sensor up, some silicone and a screw held it in place with no air leaks:
The ecu breather pipe needs to be connected up and can be done like so:
The blue plug on the bottom of the throttle body connects to a grey plug (the grey plug has two green wires going into it):
The yellow plug on top of the throttle body connects to a black plug (the black plug has a yellow and brown wire going into it):
The throttle sensor with 3 wires (black, black/yellow, black/red) connects to the black plug with 3 wires (grey, brown, grey) and has to be connected like so:
black wire to A
black/yellow wire to B
black/red wire to C
A pipe from the bottom right of the inlet needs to be connected to the brake reservoir:
Last of all...connect up the throttle cable and enjoy! (a 106 throttle cable will need to be used as the throttle opens the opposite way and the vtr one is too short)
Last edited by G187; 2nd October 2008 at 15:45.
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2nd October 2008, 16:10
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and does it actually run ok?
9/10 results say no.
why do people do this mod? dont even think people do it these days because of all the bad results.
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2nd October 2008, 16:16
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what do the 1/10 people who have had this done correctly say?
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2nd October 2008, 16:18
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mine ran perfect...idle was fine and noise was lovely, the actual inlet itself is like 3 times bigger than the vtr one and its made out of aluminium which gives it that nice throaty note
with it on you notice a slight power increase, the real gains are made once a remap is done (which i never got around to do)
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2nd October 2008, 16:22
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all i ever read about it is people had a dick on trying to get it to work
good guide though
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2nd October 2008, 16:38
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Really considering this, will it only fit the mk1 engine or will it fit a silver top mk 2 03 plate vtr??
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2nd October 2008, 16:43
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different port spacings on 98bhp engines
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2nd October 2008, 16:50
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ryan
different port spacings on 98bhp engines
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Cheers mate, did a search and saw this so thought i'd just ask to make sure!
so if i fitted a 90bhp head on my 98bhp block then the rally inlet would fit??
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2nd October 2008, 16:52
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ryan
different port spacings on 98bhp engines
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ryan where have you been
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2nd October 2008, 17:24
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Quote:
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ryan where have you been
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im back at uni and the broadband isnt in my house yet so only online when i pop into uni mate
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6th October 2008, 00:31
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G187's inlet manifold is now on my car, and after 5 mins or so of it revving at 5k the ecu sorted itself out and it idles perfectly the guide was really helpfull too. and can i just add that the lower 2 bolts are a proper bitch to fit, and make sure there all done up tight
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6th October 2008, 01:25
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Quote:
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why do people do this mod? dont even think people do it these days because of all the bad results.
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i'd only do it if fitting certain cams.. the standard VTR inlet manifold just doesn't cut it
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11th February 2009, 16:13
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sorry to bring up old threads but il be fitting one of these at the weekend and was curious for anyones experience of gains, also is a 106 throttle cable a MUST as it says earlier in this thread youe may need 1
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11th February 2009, 16:29
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yes, new throttle cable a definate must, saxo diesel also fits. you will love the sound once fitted mate
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11th February 2009, 16:40
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yeah? gr8, only really fitting as im awaiting my ph3 and pulley arriving, is the noise that much different?
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11th February 2009, 16:55
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what induction kit do you have on? it will make a throatier noise from the engine, sounds awesome
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11th February 2009, 17:31
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just a shitty open filter, loud but not good, its too big and is sucking in alot of hot air, i have a green induction kit but am in the middle of decision making on which route to go induction wise, jus waiting till all arrives to get cammed up then going to fit all at once and bask in there power increse lol
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11th February 2009, 17:37
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well the exit of the inlet manifold were the hosing joins on has more of an angle on it so you may need to reposition that slightly
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11th February 2009, 18:01
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no probs m8, unless i go the raceland route will probs be custom piping anyway, cheers for the info,
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14th February 2009, 18:40
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good guide, have jus fitted and my idle is 2k, when i rev its taking its time to drop back down to 2k anyone any ideas was thinking icv?
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