Mobile Devices: Lite Theme CitroŽn: CitroŽn Trader | Saxo Trader | C2 Trader Peugeot: Peugeot Trader | 106 Trader Enthusiast: Saxperience


Go Back   Saxperience - Citroen Saxo Forum > Citroen Saxo Related Forums > Saxo Problems & Queries

Saxo Problems & Queries If you're having problems with your Saxo and you're after a bit of advice, check this forum out...

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 17th August 2014, 21:20   #1
johnnyg_vts
Established Member
North West Region Member
 
johnnyg_vts's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Fleetwood
Posts: 2,244
Car(s): 2002 Saxo VTS
iTrader Score: 4 (100%)
Default VTS starts, stalls, starts, stalls ffs...HELP!

2002 VTS.
As soon as I start it it stalls.
Start it again, runs for 1 second, stalls again.
Start it again and rev it, it then runs with me holding revs at 2k. If I let off it stalls. As it warms it gets better until it sits idling fine.
If I rev it the revs drop to 500ish and car 50% of the time stalls.
Misfires randomly, not greatly, but it runs like shite tbh

CODE P0170

So..
Changed..
Coilpack x3
ICV x2
MAP sensor x2
Crank/ flywheel sensor x2
TPS x2
Both temp sensors x3
Double checked timing
Dismantled inlet manifold, cleaned it and rebuilt with new seals not losing oil or water
Changed front O2 sensor
Swapped around front and back O2 sensors to see if problem 'moved' - it didn't.
Set of 4 new Bosch plugs

Ran great for years and now this.
Anything I'm missing?

Last edited by johnnyg_vts; 17th August 2014 at 21:48.
johnnyg_vts is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 17th August 2014, 21:35   #2
DaCrazyOne
Frequent Poster
 
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Space
Posts: 873
Default

That code is related to fuel trim also some of the following can be a really random code given this but maybe the cause one or some of.


Intake air leaks
- Faulty front heated oxygen sensor
- Ignition misfiring
- Faulty fuel injectors
- Exhaust gas leaks
- Incorrect fuel pressure
- Lack of fuel
- Faulty Mass Air Flow (MAF) sensor
- Incorrect Positive Crankcase Ventilation (PCV) hose connection

Tech notes
Dirty air filter, air filter housing or Mass Air Flow (MAF) sensor, or faulty MAF sensor are common causes for the P0170 code.


Looking more on here for you and other places seems that it is fuel trim malfunction.

Hope it helps
DaCrazyOne is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 17th August 2014, 21:47   #3
johnnyg_vts
Established Member
North West Region Member
 
johnnyg_vts's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Fleetwood
Posts: 2,244
Car(s): 2002 Saxo VTS
iTrader Score: 4 (100%)
Default

Pretty much done all of that. Injectors were refurbed and cleaned about 12 months ago. There is definitely fuel there.
Fuel filter on way and will be fitted when it arrives.
No MAF on a VTS.
Standard air box, clean K&N panel inside it.
Standard exhaust, MOT'd 2 months ago so no leaks, etc.
johnnyg_vts is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 18th August 2014, 16:54   #4
johnnyg_vts
Established Member
North West Region Member
 
johnnyg_vts's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Fleetwood
Posts: 2,244
Car(s): 2002 Saxo VTS
iTrader Score: 4 (100%)
Default

Bttt..
johnnyg_vts is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20th August 2014, 18:20   #5
johnnyg_vts
Established Member
North West Region Member
 
johnnyg_vts's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Fleetwood
Posts: 2,244
Car(s): 2002 Saxo VTS
iTrader Score: 4 (100%)
Default

Fixed. ICV that worked fine previously was seized in an extended position. Causing a good warm idle and a dire cold idle - something similar to an air leak as technically there is/ was one. New ICV and car runs beautifully again.
johnnyg_vts is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 13:38.