Saxo Super 1600 Engine

[tommievo]

hi anyone knows how citroen sports deliver almost 210 hps from a 1.6 16v engine?...im doing a project to take a saxo vts and transform it to a super 1600, i need all your help thanks

[need4speed]

alright mate,
there probley runnin either a turbo or supercharger conversion. 200+bhp easily achievable. plannin on turbo chargin my vts, quoted 240bhp about 190bhp at the wheels costin £5000+ inc fittin. smileys/smiley17.gif
Depends how big ur budget is, im lookin at spendin around £8000
you can get up 2 170bhp with chip,cams,exhaust, manifold etc but big power you need either a turbo or supercharger conversion.

[Smithy]

I always thought the Super 1600 was naturally aspirated. Work on the cylinder head, cams, throttle body, manifold, air box, exhaust, etc. Then all the transmission, suspension, etc, etc.

[tommievo]

I always thought the Super 1600 was naturally aspirated. Work on the cylinder head, cams, throttle body, manifold, air box, exhaust, etc. Then all the transmission, suspension, etc, etc.

actually they are aspirated....but my question is if anyone knows WHAT or HOW they modify the engine.....

[Smithy]

Cituning do a conversion to convert the car to Super 1600 spec. Have a look on their website.

[Scott]

i though the super 1600 was N/A as well smithy

[SaxoAL]

It is Im sure it is !!
Mission find out... LOL

[jayxx83]

look on the cituning website, www.lefrancaisconnection.com, the super conversion is about £75,000 or something like that.

[Smithy]

According to Citunings catalogue the following is done to the car:

CHASSIS

Bodyshell reinforced with welded in roll cage prepared by Matter
Bodykit - bumpers, wings, rear spoiler etc
Engine undertray

ENGINE

Engine kit - cylinder head, cams, moving parts
Throttle body kit and manifold, airbox assembly
Engine computer
Exhaust
Engine mounts

TRANSMISSION

Twin plate clutch
6 - speed sequential gearbox
Limited slip final drive with ratio 12 x 68
Set of driveshafts

SUSPENSION

Steering rack
Shocks
Rear torsion bars
Front and rear anti-roll bars
Front brake discs and 4 pot calipers
Master cylinder
Hydraulic handbrake
Brake pads and hoses
Special pedal unit with front/rear adjustable braking distribution
Rear brake discs and 2 pot calipers
Rear track chocks
7" x 17" rims

Yours for a measly £76,250 + VAT
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[SaxoAL]

only ..... Not bad!!smileys/smiley17.gif

[Dave_J_UK]

I'll have 2!

[tommievo]

thanks to all of you!! .... a lot!

[Ripper3]

Yea, it is N/A, cos S1600 class cars rnt allowed to b aspirated, no turbos, no superchargers.
Yea, if anyone of us happens to have £76k, buy the kit to get the Saxo converted, and tell us what it's like smileys/smiley17.gif
So mate, wot u goin for? U lookin for turbo i guess to acheive that power.

[Andy_OZ]

you could buy a lambo!

that is insane money! i take i tthat it full wrc spec?

what about spares!!!!!

[Raz]

talk about bumping up an old thread!

76k is mad...but if you consider the ammount the current WRC cars are worth...seems a steal (Ford Focus WRC i believe cost something like 250k)

N/A imo is the best for a car to go if planning to mod the engine...

[Andy_OZ]

2008 WRC cars are worth €750k.

this is brand new out of the box as Loeb would use!

this is why in 2010 WRC is moving to Group N, banning the use of alot of the electronics and exotic materials such as carbon fibre and titanuim.

FIA are hoping to reduce the cost of privatire entry by 30% in order to see more teams envoled in it.

S. Loeb has said he reckons he can still hit the same times in a grou n!

only thing i cant grasp is will the body styling look more like what you buy in the showroom??

because the c4 looks nothing like the one in the motormalL!!!!!!

[Mini-valver]

I think they are restricted to one throttle body and the size of it too, not 100% though.

[AlexR]

Yeah i know it's been dredged, some of the original posts are such bollocks from clueless muppets, oh how this forum has come along in 4 years lol

[bullit]

Yeah i know it's been dredged, some of the original posts are such bollocks from clueless muppets, oh how this forum has come along in 4 years lol

lol. you being one who used to take the mick ;)

[Sean]

dredge ahoy