Vtr Turbo

[John]

In the next few weeks im going to buy a vtr so i can turbo it think i have thought of everything to get and have got few parts already but any advice ect would be good


T25 turbo
2 headgaskets
Boost hose kit
MF2
5th injector on the elbow "got"
manifold "got"
Intercooler
Bigger brakes dont know what ones though
Paddle clutch
Piper cam shaft and pulleys
vts rad plus twin fans

have i missed any thing out

[2000vtr]

map sensor
sigcon
oil pipes
oil cooler

[Graeme]

wouldnt you need a new ecu aswell??

[John]

ahh oil cooler never thought of that also need oil feed and return.

[Roper]

or just buy the complete kit from cituning.com

stage 1 - http://www.cituning.ltd.uk/ProductDetails.aspx?pid=998

stage 2 - http://www.cituning.ltd.uk/ProductDetails.aspx?pid=11483

stage 3 - http://www.cituning.ltd.uk/ProductDetails.aspx?pid=11485

lee.

[John]

wouldnt you need a new ecu aswell??

Nah mf2 is a piggy bank ecu.

[John]

or just buy the complete kit from cituning.com

or let me think about this there over dear and want to do it knowing i have done most of the work not just bought some kit.

Although cheers for link im not spending £2200.

[Roper]

can get it in DIY kit.

[tweeqd]

the cituning kit is a very basic kit and quite restrictive when upping the power and trust me once you have it on you will want more power lol
even if your trying to do it cheaply it will still cost twice what you think it will

[mallboy]

the cituning kit is a very basic kit and quite restrictive when upping the power and trust me once you have it on you will want more power lol
even if your trying to do it cheaply it will still cost twice what you think it will

so true, i thought it would only cost me a grand diy but has cost me allot more due to mistakes and wanting more power. in my opinion it wasnt worth it - i wish i just sold my car and bought a turbo car instead.

you cant bodge up a turbo conversion as problems are guaranteed to occur;)

[2000vtr]

buy something decent to start with.

Something known 100% to work like a supercharger kit.....

for 3000 you would have the s/c oil , belt , braket ect... along with the mf2 sigcon - but NO intercooler but you could pick up a universal one for 100 of ebay...

alot less heat in the engine bay says to me i'd trust it to be more reliable.

[2000vtr]

1- C30/64 charger with bracket, rollers, oil tank+ fixings £1736.00
1- Drive belt 1180mm 80mm pulley £21.00
1- ERL MF2 unit + GMC signal conditioner£450.00
1- 2 Bar Map Sensor £78.00
1- Large Injector £70.00
1- Injector Fuel Fitting Kit £10.00
1- Injector Electric Connector Kit £6.50
1- Boost Pipe with Injector Holder No3 £140.00
1- Inlet Chrome Pipe No4 £87.00
1- K+N Air Filter Element £27.00

supply your own clips ect reallllly easy to fit aswell so labour costs saved

[John]

yeah i know it will cost me more than expected but i still want to do it i get something out of knowing that its not just a plain old turbo ive bought that ive done the work my self.

[Jackman]

Turboing is never cheap...

mine will be going off to Carworx to be done eventually.

[Sophia_Bush]

not easy to do, plenty of hrudles, plenty of teething problems in my experience

[2000vtr]

thats why i searched for every problem that could accour before buying, and so far ive had no problems as ive know what to buy an what not, were to buy from an were to not.

[oadamo]

it would be alot easyer and cheaper just to drop a rs turbo or r5 engine in. its already turbo so you dont have to spend loads on pistons and piss about with oil returns. just make some new mounts and get the shafts resplined to suit hubs. if i was to do it i would use the r5 engine less wiring.
adam

[medz_vtrturbo]

it would be alot easyer and cheaper just to drop a rs turbo or r5 engine in. its already turbo so you dont have to spend loads on pistons and piss about with oil returns. just make some new mounts and get the shafts resplined to suit hubs. if i was to do it i would use the r5 engine less wiring.
adam

sourcing a r5 engine for a reasonable price is hard, (people that own them seem to think that they are worth a mint). let alone paying for it and the arsing about of putting 1 in.
i went the turbo route, i admit loads of hassle. but.... to see peoples faces when thay see a little blue saxo hissin like a snake then a big ptsssshhhh is priceless. and the fact that u can whoop a lot of quick cars

[jaybiss]

if you want to turbo it do it

you will get so much satisfaction when youve done it

can i ask though, why not buy an s and do it with that? can run a safer amount of boost and still have the same power

[mallboy]

sourcing a r5 engine for a reasonable price is hard, (people that own them seem to think that they are worth a mint). let alone paying for it and the arsing about of putting 1 in.
i went the turbo route, i admit loads of hassle. but.... to see peoples faces when thay see a little blue saxo hissin like a snake then a big ptsssshhhh is priceless. and the fact that u can whoop a lot of quick cars


medz has just hit the nail on the head, i totally agree with him a 100%.

the r5 engine will be 20 times harder than turbo-ing a car, theres no point of fitting an r5 lump in, as the stock turbo engines are poo and will be a mission to fit (driveshafts, engine mounts, ecu etc etc)

[John]

if you want to turbo it do it

you will get so much satisfaction when youve done it

can i ask though, why not buy an s and do it with that? can run a safer amount of boost and still have the same power


Because i will probs get slated for this i hate how every one says just put a vts engine in it really annoys me for some reason.

[mallboy]

Because i will probs get slated for this i hate how every one says just put a vts engine in it really annoys me for some reason.

im not gonna slate you, with a vts you have a better platform to start turbo-ing as you have 20-30bhp more than a vts (depending on year). that will make allot of difference but its up to you.

im happy with how my vtr performs but if you are looking for a full on 200bhp+ beast then a vts engine is the best bet, if going for just a healthy power increase then the vtr engine will be more than enough to turbo

[John]

Nah i want to turbo a vtr have been told that they are more relaible than a vts to turbo as well.

[Mr_suv]

surely u will need to get low compression pistons as well so you can run the boost at a high psi or it will blow the engine to bits

[John]

surely u will need to get low compression pistons as well so you can run the boost at a high psi or it will blow the engine to bits

nope if running under 6psi only need 2 head gaskets or a decomp plate.

[mallboy]

surely u will need to get low compression pistons as well so you can run the boost at a high psi or it will blow the engine to bits

nope, as said above forged pistons are only required if your turning the boost up above 7-8 psi. if you did fit forgies then they will be allot more reliable than two headgaskets. i asked a few tuning companies and they all said that standard head gaskets would be fine for up to 6psi - thats why i removed my de-compression plate and used a repair headgasket (+0.3mm thicker) that slightly lowers the compression but ok for 6psi of boost.

[Japman]

Turboing is never cheap...

mine will be going off to Carworx to be done eventually.

Lies,it wont happend

[John]

Lies,it wont happend

want to bet by crimbo ill have a vtr turbo.

[jaybiss]

he was on bout jack man john lol

[John]

lmao my bad!

[medz_vtrturbo]

mine is running 12 psi now with 2 headgaskets. the engine is still in 1 piece. will be turning it up to 14 psi soon with another injector, and then she will go for a remap

[Wolz]

or let me think about this there over dear and want to do it knowing i have done most of the work not just bought some kit.

Although cheers for link im not spending £2200.

Not spending and expecting a realiable turbo set up LMFARO ! .... this project is over before you start !

You need to spend at least £3000 for a basic low level entry turbo set up FACT ! ..... then more money ,more power !

[Wolz]

And i would think again about using using an MF2 set up they are pretty much old technology and do in the long run cause problems due to the way it disributes fuel ..... they do work ok but limit you no end !

Standalone is the way to go !

[Karl]

totally agree with Wolz' idea if you dont spend, it wont be any good.

[John]

Nah because its not like its untested quite a few people have done it trying to get all the right bits so i dont buy bits i dont need ect.

[John]

Have got intercooler and megasquirt.

[tweeqd]

the worst thing about boost is its very addictive, i did my 1st engine on the cheap and it survived but i wanted more power thats when it gets expencive lol

to be honest if you have to ask the questionsdont attempt it your seld and paying someone else will cost alot for it to be done properly

[L8R_VTR]

I really want to turbo my vts engine what i have in the garage atm its ready to go in but I keep hearing that much about the problems people are having or the amount of people that keep saying dont do it its starting to put me off one hell of alot!!!:n:

[tweeqd]

its dead easy to do its just nuts and bolts to me but to do it right its not cheap

[L8R_VTR]

Thinking about buying a kit something like the one whats on ebay now for £750 and get me and my mate to fit it am not after a 200 bhp beast just something that gives me a little boost 5-6 psi and sounds nice at the same time its just something diff where i live there aint no saxo turbos at all so its being different to the norm

[Jackman]

id rather just pay someone to do the whole lot..

ive just had a quote from Pug1Off to turbo a Quiksilver that im looking to go ahead with

[dobsd001]

What was the quote that they gave you jackman just out of interest.
I take it you need to uprate your brakes and clutch on top of that price though as well...

[Jackman]

What was the quote that they gave you jackman just out of interest.
I take it you need to uprate your brakes and clutch on top of that price though as well...

Price was £4500 + VAT

Waiting for a response back from them now as there was a few things i wished for them to clear up.