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Mr_suv
8th December 2007, 17:08
right how much gain do u reckon id get from wacking heyabusa throttle bodies onto my vtr? bout 100bhp
Mr_suv
8th December 2007, 17:11
thats 100bhp atm
williamsvts
8th December 2007, 17:11
i hope you dont mean 100hp gain?
on standard cams i doubt you would even gain any power. you may gain some at high revs but lower down will suffer.
Jackman
8th December 2007, 17:11
Not much. i wouldnt bothere really mate.
Steve
8th December 2007, 17:35
throttle bodies and changing the cam and stand alone should see 140ish?
Jackman
8th December 2007, 17:37
throttle bodies and changing the cam and stand alone should see 140ish?
thats what someone i know is hitting in a S2 Rallye.
146bhp last time i knew. torque was quite tasty though.
Mr_suv
8th December 2007, 18:00
getting a cam for crimbo so i may invest in throttle bodies could be interesting are they hard to fit any1 know?
williamsvts
8th December 2007, 18:03
need a custom manifold. you'll also need a standalone ecu. then get the bodies balance and get the car mapped. throttle cable will also need a bit jigary pokery.
vtr130
9th December 2007, 10:42
Its alot of effort and money mate!!
Steve
9th December 2007, 11:01
also make sure you get teh right cam :y:
Mark51
9th December 2007, 11:46
there was a lad called Craig on her with a 106 gti with TB's and he was doing 152bhp at the wheels. he said he has spent about 6k on the enigine
vtrlogan
9th December 2007, 11:53
says in french car if u get r6 throttle bodys they will work on stardard ecu. :P r1 bodys are to big
MaRiO89
9th December 2007, 11:56
Tbh unless you are getting a seriously wild cam there isn't really any need for TB's except for the noise..:P
Its alot of money to get them and to have them setup properly, will also kill fuel economy..
williamsvts
9th December 2007, 12:07
says in french car if u get r6 throttle bodys they will work on stardard ecu. :P r1 bodys are to big
they wont though. where you guna put the map sensor? afm? tps?
MiniGibbo
9th December 2007, 17:11
16v lump, 809's, omex standalone and some huge tb's
very nice :afro:
vtr130
9th December 2007, 17:13
Thanks ;)
vtrlogan
9th December 2007, 17:30
they wont though. where you guna put the map sensor? afm? tps?
this is what it says in November 2007 issue
i quote
''Where a lot off engines like saxos would normally be home to Weber ir Dellorta carbs sadly they just dont physically fit in the engine bay. Now you've two choices what to do when yourve reached the limit of the stock induction manifold and thottle body. The affordable option is to go for a set off R6 bike throttle carbs. Obscure? YES!. Affordable? DEFINITELY!. Dont be tempted to go for bigger R1 versions; Theyre to big for the 1.6 engine. The full set-up only needs to cost around 1000 but great news is they can be run on ' Stock management, Regardless off some forum know-it-alls may tell you''.
looks like your the forum know-it-all? sorry mate but im gunna say your wrong becouse im sure french car wouldnt put it unless its true in there tuning a saxo guide!
AXracing
9th December 2007, 18:54
LOL There is some confusion here.
Weber and Delorto both do carbs that do fit. I know I have used both. Incidentally the AX sport even came with Solex carbs that are basicly the same size and shape as the Weber DCOE. Though you are much better using something such as a Weber IDF on a RHD car. Here is a photo of a stock AX sport.
http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/3587/digitalizar0003yy6.jpg
Now bike bodies. No fuel injection bodies of any bike will just bolt on and work with stock ECU. That is correct none. You can bolt some bike carbs on and get them setup to work. But it is in no way ideal. But that is carbs and not throttle bodies.
williamsvts
9th December 2007, 21:28
this is what it says in November 2007 issue
i quote
''Where a lot off engines like saxos would normally be home to Weber ir Dellorta carbs sadly they just dont physically fit in the engine bay. Now you've two choices what to do when yourve reached the limit of the stock induction manifold and thottle body. The affordable option is to go for a set off R6 bike throttle carbs. Obscure? YES!. Affordable? DEFINITELY!. Dont be tempted to go for bigger R1 versions; Theyre to big for the 1.6 engine. The full set-up only needs to cost around 1000 but great news is they can be run on ' Stock management, Regardless off some forum know-it-alls may tell you''.
looks like your the forum know-it-all? sorry mate but im gunna say your wrong becouse im sure french car wouldnt put it unless its true in there tuning a saxo guide!
if your guna try and be cockey mate, think about what you write. you said throttle bodies in your first post then the mag says carbs. you need to go buy some mroe mags and learn about the differences :homme:
AXracing
9th December 2007, 22:45
LOL I think it may be the opposite williamsvts. I just think mags tend to be full of as much confusion as forums. Or more even as there is no one there to disagree. Its like that magazine that said the standard internals of the TU engine will not cope with over 7000rpm. When in standard trim many of them do more than that lol. Best to just go work on the car and see what you end up with. Thats why a trust people like longman and GMC as they have tuned these engines for many many years and they really do know a lot about them. Its not just general tuning know how but rather knowing the ins and outs and all the eccentricities of the TU engine.
zmaster2k
9th December 2007, 23:01
VTS lump suvvy! Easy! Instant powergain!
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