v-tec engine conversion

[notty17]

does anyone kno nething about the 'zcars' v-tec engine conversion kits, nd are they any good nd worth it?

[Coonper]

From what ive seen theyre awesome!:y:
Dont know if anyone on here has one though...

[Sean]

are they worth it? Only person who can answer that question is yourself. Do you really want to spend thousands on a saxo when there are more than enough better cars out there for ther money? Are you prepared to risk the fact that you have no chance of selling it when you want to get rid of it? For questions like this it is entirely personal preference.

[Euphoria]

or just buy a type r :P easier to sell afterwards haha

[oadamo]

why do people want to put an engine in the back or there car lol. you get a pendulum effect and makes the car drive like shit unless you dont go around corners.just drive a mgf you will no what i mean.
adam

[Coonper]

or just buy a type r :P easier to sell afterwards haha

But nowhere near as fast!;)

[GRAHAM2000VTR]

if you want a rwd car buy a rwd car can't see the point

[leeK9]

well if i won the lottery i could definetly see myself putting a turbod DC5 lump in the back but wouldnt do it unless i won a large amount of money.

but doing it would get rid of useless things like the unrelaible TU engine and rear torsion bar suspension so in the long run would make for far better reliability

[djrem]

well if i won the lottery i could definetly see myself putting a turbod DC5 lump in the back but wouldnt do it unless i won a large amount of money.

but doing it would get rid of useless things like the unrelaible TU engine and rear torsion bar suspension so in the long run would make for far better reliability

agreed :y:

[KamRacing]

Ignore the 'buy a better car' comments - people have been swapping engines on cars to go faster for the last 100 years.
If you love the looks of the saxo and want to keep that, and you can afford the conversion then go for it. People stick cossie 4wd in mk1 escorts etc so whats wrong with a saxo as the escort was pretty slow when first out (though not at the time)
Chris and his team at Z-cars are a good bunch and know what they are doing so expect a great car. There are a few issues inherent with mid engined cars but it will still be a cracker. Personally i would look to see if the s2000 engine can be fitted to a fwd gearbox (i think there is a conversion) and that would be a far superior engine :D

[leeK9]

so whats the deal with these conversions?

what about MOT do you need to change the log book?and what about insurance?

[Matthew1684]

I agree with Kam in respect of, if you like the look etc and want it to go faster...do what ever it takes to do this. i.e engine conversions, etc. If you want to do it, you have the time and money for it...go for it, it will be one machine when complete!

[Quick]

so whats the deal with these conversions?

what about MOT do you need to change the log book?and what about insurance?

MOT shouldn't be a problem if a proper job is done
logbook yes
insurance specialist company, engineers report

http://www.zcars.org.uk/saxo/index.htm

[Sean]

Ignore the 'buy a better car' comments - people have been swapping engines on cars to go faster for the last 100 years.
If you love the looks of the saxo and want to keep that, and you can afford the conversion then go for it. People stick cossie 4wd in mk1 escorts etc so whats wrong with a saxo as the escort was pretty slow when first out (though not at the time)
Chris and his team at Z-cars are a good bunch and know what they are doing so expect a great car. There are a few issues inherent with mid engined cars but it will still be a cracker. Personally i would look to see if the s2000 engine can be fitted to a fwd gearbox (i think there is a conversion) and that would be a far superior engine :D

That's fine if it's a promotional tool for a company or a second car that's going to be used on the odd weekend, but for use as a daily car then it's a complete no-no in all honesty. The guys with mk2 cosworths etc never ever use them as daily drivers and usually end up breaking them when it comes to getting rid (just look at passionford and how many end up being broken up for parts). My advice would be to have a drive of a few other faster (and better) performance cars than the saxo, before you rush into cutting up a perfectly good car. Then if you still feel like going back to the saxo and spending cash on it then go for it :) Personal preference is never wrong! ;)

[Quick]

also
http://swatspeed.co.uk/index3.htm

[leeK9]

if i had the money i would

[Matthew1684]

Personal preferance is never wrong!
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certainly cant argue with that!

[stevenet15]

the workman ship of the conversions is good but the results are bad imo, iirc it only does a quarter mile in 14.8secs and u can get a standard vts to do it in around 15.7 secs

[leeK9]

six speed box will slow her down though with more shifting at low speeds

[leeK9]

actualy i retract my last comment when i think about it.lol

[Coonper]

the workman ship of the conversions is good but the results are bad imo, iirc it only does a quarter mile in 14.8secs and u can get a standard vts to do it in around 15.7 secs

Your telling me that a saxo with a hayabusa turbo with 200+bhp will only be 1 second faster than a vts!?!?! I beg to differ....

[Sean]

Your telling me that a saxo with a hayabusa turbo with 200+bhp will only be 1 second faster than a vts!?!?! I beg to differ....

Steve is talking about a type-r engined saxo which ran those figures.

[stevenet15]

Your telling me that a saxo with a hayabusa turbo with 200+bhp will only be 1 second faster than a vts!?!?! I beg to differ....

nope i'm not telling you that as this thead is not on about the hayabusa turbo conversion he asked about the v-tec conversion:
does anyone kno nething about the 'zcars' v-tec engine conversion kits, nd are they any good nd worth it?
which it only does a quarter mile in 14.8secs on a standard vtec lump and u can get a standard vts to do it in around 15.7 secs. if it had the hayabusa turbo lump then it would obviously be alot quicker, rev higher & gearchange quicker

[bark]

I like where this is goin!

Dream car - old mini with a twin hayabusa turbo conversion!

I shall sit and spectate for a bit :P

[mellor]

haha Z cars is owned by a mate of mine (well part owned) and their just down the road... sime and his gang certainly know what their doing and ive been for a ride in said saxo - i can tell you one thing... ITS F*CKING FAST... i couldnt believe just how mentally quick it was compared to tuned VTS/GTIs ive driven, my FRST etc etc...

Like kam said, people have been making cars faster since time began, and pushing boundaries is what its all about... if you say "why dont you just buy a typeR/RWD car" well why do people who turbo VTRs etc dont just go buy a turbo'd car in the 1st place...

Either way its a really solid, well built piece of kit that would be worth it to anyone who had the cash and could justify it... just dont expect it to be cheap ; ) If anyone has any questions on any of Zcars work, give us a shout

Matt

[smiith]

i agree with the people saying get it done, isnt this game all about been unique?

anyone with the money can buy a type-r or something (thet aint actually all that quick tbh) but its not everyday you see a vtec lump in the back of a little hatchback.

i can see em doin the 1/4 mile in less that 14 seconds aswell tbh

[KamRacing]

That's fine if it's a promotional tool for a company or a second car that's going to be used on the odd weekend, but for use as a daily car then it's a complete no-no in all honesty. The guys with mk2 cosworths etc never ever use them as daily drivers and usually end up breaking them when it comes to getting rid (just look at passionford and how many end up being broken up for parts). My advice would be to have a drive of a few other faster (and better) performance cars than the saxo, before you rush into cutting up a perfectly good car. Then if you still feel like going back to the saxo and spending cash on it then go for it :) Personal preference is never wrong! ;)

in a way I agree but then i think ford guys tend to be a bit anal about bring their p&j our on a rainy day :D and their mk2 cossie costs something in the region of £30k to build. The swatspeed car is a good example of an engine conversion on a budget (yes its still a lot!) but its not too extreme for the driver and (now only one) passenger. The engine was pretty much standard too so it has a lot of potential for greater things.
The team at Kam are pretty lucky that we each have the space to build our own projects, though as we fund them ourselves they are very slow to progress and it would be impossible to have only one car. By having a second car allows you to be far more extreme too.
If you have the money be different. Come up with an idea, speak to qualified engineers who can do the work to see their thoughts and work with them to come up with something original and a little naughty!
Why look at only 2litres when the accord type R had a 2.2 and I think 210bhp and more torque. Its probably cheaper too as its less desirable..

[Sean]

in a way I agree but then i think ford guys tend to be a bit anal about bring their p&j our on a rainy day :D and their mk2 cossie costs something in the region of £30k to build. The swatspeed car is a good example of an engine conversion on a budget (yes its still a lot!) but its not too extreme for the driver and (now only one) passenger. The engine was pretty much standard too so it has a lot of potential for greater things.
The team at Kam are pretty lucky that we each have the space to build our own projects, though as we fund them ourselves they are very slow to progress and it would be impossible to have only one car. By having a second car allows you to be far more extreme too.
If you have the money be different. Come up with an idea, speak to qualified engineers who can do the work to see their thoughts and work with them to come up with something original and a little naughty!
Why look at only 2litres when the accord type R had a 2.2 and I think 210bhp and more torque. Its probably cheaper too as its less desirable..

Completely agree, I'd love to do a saxo cosworth if I had the money and space. I was basing my point of view on the fact the thread starter is a newbie and we all know how many newbie threads there are on turbo'ing vts's/whats the biggest engine I can fit in my saxo etc etc :)

[hesslevtr]

Completely agree, I'd love to do a saxo cosworth if I had the money and space

and a hell of a lot of time

or would it be done ina weekend like your vts conversion ;)

[Sean]

and a hell of a lot of time

or would it be done ina weekend like your vts conversion ;)

vts ftw :)