PT 51 or 708?

[le_petit_gaulois]

Hi guyz. I own a 106 rallye and im planning to cam it soon. I've read numerous posts concerning the cams above and I would be grateful if anyone could help me choose between these cams. Help in advance!

[Ryan]

guessing your 106 rallye is a s2 on the continent??
or has had a conversion if uk

personally id go 708s.

[le_petit_gaulois]

Yeah its a Rallye S2 1.6 16v. I know most people go for the 708s and personally i think u can get more horsepower with em.

[Ryan]

proven to give about 155bhp.

catcams are also cheaper irc.

id go for them if i was buying.

[le_petit_gaulois]

Yeah 150-155 is what im hoping for. I was thinking of buying a peugeot sport chip since i am told that its gonna suit fine. Has anyone tested one on a cammed car?

[Ryan]

pugsport ecu?

not worth it imo, ive got cup cams, with cup ecu they produce about 145bhp irc..

the ecu isnt cheap and also from memory is a bastard on cold start etc..

id just get 708s and a nice remap.

[bullit]

i remember alexs thread on ssc about this. went on for ages didnt it

[le_petit_gaulois]

pugsport ecu?

not worth it imo, ive got cup cams, with cup ecu they produce about 145bhp irc..

the ecu isnt cheap and also from memory is a bastard on cold start etc..

id just get 708s and a nice remap.
No, i mean just the chip. Some people that it can even handle pt52's...:S

[Ryan]

i dont like chips on engines as they are pre mapped and not to the exact specifics to your engine itself.

[le_petit_gaulois]

Yeah i know man, but since its gonna cost me sth like 80 euros it's a bargain! lol

[Ryan]

unless the map is wrong and damages your engine due to fueling wrong :P

[le_petit_gaulois]

Hmmm.. U got me there. lol

[le_petit_gaulois]

After a little search through some forums I came to the conclusion that pt 51's dont produce good power gains, at least not as one would expect. However, newman Ph3's seem to be a good choice for an everyday car, so I might give em a try If i find some used ones! U r thoughts on that plz!!!