VTS air intake

[jasonwellwicked]

Hi peeps,

I have noticed that the air intakes on the VTS is much more substantial than that of 1.1's and westcoasts (for obvious reasons) - in theory could such an intake be fitted to any saxo in the range?

Regards for responses

Jase

[adam19]

i couldnt see why not

[jasonwellwicked]

This is what I am thinking - it must use the standard bolting points in the engine bay which all saxos will have, therefore would just need hosing to attach it to a given saxo air induction box!

Can anyone see a reason for this not to work?

[Evolution4589]

I've just tried this on my engine but with a VTR setup.

Put simply, I've fucked it up.

The car idles at 8,000rpm because there's air leaking in somewhere, but as soon as it's all sorted then I can let you know how different it is... it's a nice idea because the TU engines do generally have stupidly restrictive inlet manifolds.

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a345/S65-AMG/IMG_4320.jpg

Difference in throttle bodies...

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a345/S65-AMG/IMG_4319.jpg

Difference in port size... quite large!!

[jasonwellwicked]

Im very pleased to hear that your brave enough to try it! I would be facinated to know how you get on once you've have sorted the current problems, so please keep us posted! Best of luck! Jase

[Ryan]

some different models have different port spacings, so cant just mix and match with anything.

[Evolution4589]

Further update for you- got it running OK-ish, but had to disconnect the MAP sensor. Simply an ECU-related problem, nothing a quick mapping won't sort out. It does run like a bag of shit though, lol! I'm coupling mine with VTR injectors as well, it's all being tied together on August 9th.

I've had a look at the VTS inlet, and it looks like it has square inlet ports... :S

Which would so not go with the 1.1 engine!!

EDIT: If you're considering doing it, then make sure you have a few things handy. Firstly, as Ryan said, check the port spacing... I now hav a spare old-style manifold with inlet ports like this: oo oo

On the newer-style engines (2000>), they look like this: o o o o

Hope that makes sense. :)

[jasonwellwicked]

haha sods law really - the precise engine size i was thinking of attaching this to seems like it would be a difficult fit! Relying on your superior technical knowledge here, would a westcoast (mk1 1.4) be any different do you think!?

[Evolution4589]

What year's your car?

I think the 1.1 and 1.4 inlet manifolds are one and the same, but don't quote me on that! :S

As soon as the 9th has passed then I'll let you know how the inlet & injectors have worked out. Basically with the VTR inlet manifold on, the car runs way too lean (sounds awesome though lol!) and with the VTR injectors on, the car runs way too rich (overfuels like a bitch). I'm using logic to work out that the two together should run quite sweet, but again, watch this space :P

[jasonwellwicked]

maybe im over complicating things but literally just thinking about putting the much wider VTS air 'funnel' or 'intake' on for instance a west coast or 1.1 rather than the aforementioned smaller stock ones. It would leave everything else on the car stock, but possibly allow more air intake for the car to breathe! I would consider using the exisitng air tubing (aside from the restrictive small diameter piece) to link up the air 'funnel' to that of the standard air filter etc! Because I am so inexperienced with engines does anyone know whether this would be possible/worthwhile! cheers all jase

[Evolution4589]

That would be a very bad idea without mapping it. I've just put all mine back to standard and it still runs like a bag of shit because I confused the hell out of the ECU...

If you want more air in then pop a proper, full-blown induction kit on it. You're near Watford right?

If so, you are cordially invited to one of our meets at Red Dot Racing in Watford... should be able to get you a proper, fully proven induction kit.