Corsa Red top?

[OLLYVTS]

I know this is a saxo site,but i thought i would ask you lot on here as i have seen a few threads about it now.

Im wanting to buy a cheap corsa and then a drop red top engine into it with my friend.
Im looking for some good advise on what corsa to go for(if that really matters?) and whats the best engine and box to drop in to it?
Also how hard is it to fit the engine,Straight swap?

Im just wanting the car to be quick on the straights and im not going to be using it on a track,so not to fussed about the handling.

I have a tight budget of around £1000 for everything but thats just to get the car up and running.

Then i will spend maybe another £1000 once its all up together,on better brakes and engine mods.

Thanks for any help in advance.

Olly

[Yates]

vtr's beat em m8

[Japman]

na they dont yates

a tidy redtop corsa will chew a vts mate

see it happening everyday

[Jazz]

MK2SLAG on here knows about them, maybe drop him a PM?

IMO 1k is not really that much to get it up and running, can be done but will be tight.

A redtop (XE engined I think with that budget..?) with breathing mods will do a VTS in a straight I'd imagine.

[Ocego_VTR]

you will need to sign upto, www.corsasport.co.uk

[OLLYVTS]

na they dont yates

a tidy redtop corsa will chew a vts mate

see it happening everyday

I think he was joking mate.

Cheers jazz i will drop him a pm.

[Yates]

on a serious note, my mates have all used the cav red top, 150bhp think they are the sri engines, others have used the calibra engine i think, also few others have used the astra gsi engine, think thats 2.5 turbo, not sure how easy they are too fit

but best thing i would do is buy the whole car, instead of just the engine, could even pick up a cav for 500, you have engine can also take brakes off it and any other bits if needed, unsure if seats fit in, but ive seen calibra seats in a nova, may fit in a corsa, can also take the alloys off it and try sell the shell after

corsa b is gona be cheapo i bet you could get a good model on high mileage for 500 maybe less, could go for the sport models one that looks better than others sri? or just go for a bog standard one and have it as a real sleeper

[smiith]

1k wont get you far, the engines themselves in decent nick cost a fortune, over half your limit.

just get a standard Corsa B GSi, they look ace

[Yates]

na they dont yates

a tidy redtop corsa will chew a vts mate

see it happening everyday

you missed patvts thread then lol

gsi, thats the model i was thinking of put sri just couldnt think

[Ocego_VTR]

corsa b's are cheap as chips.

as yates said most things like breaks and interiors can be swapped between a corsa b and a calibra you need to buy engine mounts etc best bet is to go on courtaney sport they sell all the bits for them there.

[Japman]

oppsy thought he was being serious then

for some reason everyone who has a vts thinks its one of the fastest cars on the road

**so did i,at one time**

[smiith]

I love the greenish colour GSi's with the Cav Wheels on in black, used to go to college with a lad who had one, went like a rocket

[Yates]

oppsy thought he was being serious then

for some reason everyone who has a vts thinks its one of the fastest cars on the road

**so did i,at one time**

pat's vts hammered a corsa that was 170bhp, altho he was laughin sayin no way was it 170, it was a corsa, showed us all a link, corsa red top, manifold decat exhaust and filter, said his vts easily beat it, and even a vtr would beat it lolz, ive always said i would be interested to see how mine went against one, but thats cams and xsi box, wouldnt know what it would be like just interesting to see, i know red tops are rapid

[OLLYVTS]

on a serious note, my mates have all used the cav red top, 150bhp think they are the sri engines, others have used the calibra engine i think, also few others have used the astra gsi engine, think thats 2.5 turbo, not sure how easy they are too fit

but best thing i would do is buy the whole car, instead of just the engine, could even pick up a cav for 500, you have engine can also take brakes off it and any other bits if needed, unsure if seats fit in, but ive seen calibra seats in a nova, may fit in a corsa, can also take the alloys off it and try sell the shell after

corsa b is gona be cheapo i bet you could get a good model on high mileage for 500 maybe less, could go for the sport models one that looks better than others sri? or just go for a bog standard one and have it as a real sleeper

Thanks for that yates,that dose sound like a good idea buying a whole car then i will have everything to get it running.

Do you know if its easy to fit the engine into a corsa b or do you have to make new engine mounts?
Also could i use the drive shafts from the cav?

[Japman]

id love to drop one in the nova imo,but funds wont allow

plus i got a mrs

[Yates]

grey colour smith, those are awesome

sportboy has one on here, danny jays mate, clean as fook

seen a blue corsa turbo in durham once, clean as you like i loved it

what about going for a nova? well which ever ones lighter going for nova or corsa would open it up more for gettin one in good shape

[Yates]

Thanks for that yates,that dose sound like a good idea buying a whole car then i will have everything to get it running.

Do you know if its easy to fit the engine into a corsa b or do you have to make new engine mounts?
Also could i use the drive shafts from the cav?

ive no idea about that mate, mates have done it, ive been there and not really paid attention, id love a lil corsa valver, but the s does me for now so wont be happening any time soon

[OLLYVTS]

I would prefer a corsa tbh,but if i cant find a clean one cheap i would go for a nova insteed.

[Yates]

think id rather have the corsa like, grey or white one

just changed phones dont have my mates numbers on here still on old phone which is back home otherwise would of rang them to ask

[LeeM]

you'll definately need new enine mounts. i believe you'll need custom shafts as well but can make these yourself using the donor car and i think corsa gsi shafts or buy ready made ones. i may be wrong about that bit though. £1000 is probably pushing it

[Yates]

never heard about custom shafts, my mates do everything on the cheap so i really couldnt see them doing that lol

[smiith]

grey colour smith, those are awesome

sportboy has one on here, danny jays mate, clean as fook

seen a blue corsa turbo in durham once, clean as you like i loved it

what about going for a nova? well which ever ones lighter going for nova or corsa would open it up more for gettin one in good shape

for the labour cost to put a redtop in a nova, you can apparently put a Audi TT turbo engine into a Mk1 Clio lol, that would be rapid.

My mate and his gf built a Redtop Turbo, that did shift, then water pump went, they split up, and its never been fixed, its just in a lockup in town. They only want £2000 for it aswell, with a brand new white paintjob aswell

[Yates]

ive seen a tt engine in a clio, not sure what mk it was though, was at fcs 06 matt black one on steelies unsure if it was turbo

my mates drop engines in themselves so dont pay labour

what bout sticking in the calibra or astra gsi turbo in?!

[Curran]

is it possible to get these things to handle well as well as go fast in a straight line?

with the usual upgrades. suspension, bushes etc

[LeeM]

i think you can modify shafts from the donor car so can be done on the cheap.
you can improve the handling but will never be on a par with a saxo, especially if the same money has ben sepent on improving the saxo

[OLLYVTS]

I dont have to worry about labour costs as my mate is going to be doing most of the work and i will be helping him.

I dont think my budget would be able to stretch to buying and fitting a turbo gsi lump yates.Cheers for the advise.

[LeeM]

if you use a donor vehicle you could possibly make your own mounts for the corsa rather than having to buy some

[LeeM]

here ya go http://www.topbuzz1.carenthusiasts.co.uk/mods/2Lconversion/2Lconversion.htm

[OLLYVTS]

here ya go http://www.topbuzz1.carenthusiasts.co.uk/mods/2Lconversion/2Lconversion.htm

Thanks mate that will help alot and keep me busy reading that.

I will rep ya now.:y:

[LeeM]

another faq http://www.corsasport.co.uk/board/viewthread.php?tid=224061

[OLLYVTS]

Cheers leeM i have joined up on there and will have good search.

[Whittie]

I used to have a cammed one, shell was a 1.2 swing. Mint cars, and pmsl at the "vtr will beat it" comments.

Everybody knows corsa's don't handle too well, but some decent coilovers and it's fine. They're pretty quick.

Conversion, you're looking at least £1000...
Coilovers (or shocks and springs) - £400
Brakes £150
Fitting kit ~£150
Engine £200
Gearbox (f28, 6 gears) £150

Then there's labour if you can't do it yourself.

If you're wanting to do a conversion, drop me a pm and i'll copy and paste a full list with what to buy and where to buy it from.

Worth doing it yourself over buying one, as if you've got time and can rebuild the engine you know it's solid, whereas an already converted one would of been ragged to hell and back, and you'd not be sure of mileage etc

[VTR-T]

vtr's beat em m8

Wake up.


They can be done for around 500 i've done them a couple of times, but you need to know the right people, make your own parts etc etc.

[Yates]

Wake up.


They can be done for around 500 i've done them a couple of times, but you need to know the right people, make your own parts etc etc.

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[OLLYVTS]

I have had a good search i think im going to buy a cheap corsa and fit a c20xe in it from a gte,cav or a Calibra.

If anyone knows of anyone selling one cheap please pm me.

Thanks
Olly.

[Yates]

you going for whole car or just engine? dont know anyone selling and would be a fuck on from where i live anyway

[OLLYVTS]

you going for whole car or just engine? dont know anyone selling and would be a fuck on from where i live anyway

I going for a whole car so then i will have most of the parts i will need engine,box,loom ect,plus i can have the brakes off it too.

I cant wait to get it started now.

[blusax]

bit of advice.. go look at some calibra 2.0 16v(redtops) you can normally pick a whole car up for 500-700

you will have the engine/ecu/box/big brakes to upgrade the corsa plus the leather which you can sell to get a bit of cash back or put in the corsa.

try and get xe block with a coscast head as these are not prone to the pouros issue with the xe's(mine done it and was expensive job) my cousin picked up a whole car for 600 with the coscast head about 2yrs ago. the shafts can be taken from a astra gsi and if memory serves me you only need 1 or 2 mounts, i think the gearbox mount could be tured upside down or summin i cant remember exactly as it was a while ago when i had mine.

hope this helps

[Yates]

just thought, williams had a valver nova, he knows a bit bout building them maybe worth a pm

had a look on trader, calibras all going for around 500 with bout 120 on clocks

[OLLYVTS]

bit of advice.. go look at some calibra 2.0 16v(redtops) you can normally pick a whole car up for 500-700

you will have the engine/ecu/box/big brakes to upgrade the corsa plus the leather which you can sell to get a bit of cash back or put in the corsa.

try and get xe block with a coscast head as these are not prone to the pouros issue with the xe's(mine done it and was expensive job) my cousin picked up a whole car for 600 with the coscast head about 2yrs ago. the shafts can be taken from a astra gsi and if memory serves me you only need 1 or 2 mounts, i think the gearbox mount could be tured upside down or summin i cant remember exactly as it was a while ago when i had mine.

hope this helps

Thanks i will keep a eye out for a calibra,i think its only one engine mount i need and i might need a spacer for the gear box mount,but im sure i can make that when it comes to fitting it.

What was your one like?

[blusax]

mine it reached 179 on rolling road with just exhaust and viper induction. my best 0-60 was 6.2 i had the mtech computer on it aswell


bit dirty in some of the pics
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y41/teeach/5.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y41/teeach/4.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y41/teeach/engine.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y41/teeach/side.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y41/teeach/back.jpg

people used to call it a chav mobile etc until they got in it

[blusax]

if you look at the big engine pic you can see all the shit in the water header where the head went pourous, used to go like stink though

[OLLYVTS]

just thought, williams had a valver nova, he knows a bit bout building them maybe worth a pm

had a look on trader, calibras all going for around 500 with bout 120 on clocks

Yea cheers i remeber seeing hes thread with hes nova in,if i get suck i will pm him for advise.I reackon i should be alright tho as on the corsa forums it has been cover a million times and theres loads of info with pics on it.I have had a look on auto trader and they are all abit to high millage really.

[OLLYVTS]

if you look at the big engine pic you can see all the shit in the water header where the head went pourous, used to go like stink though

Yea i bet it did go like stink,it looks alright.
Im going to keep my mine pretty standard,Sleeper ftw.
How can you tell if the head has gone pourous?

[gojka]

to be fair mate i no some1 who got a corsa and dropped a redtop (XE) in his for 500 quid lol but imo i think u should saxe up the drop a LET in it, my mate has jus got his 3rd corsa now and he is waiting to pik up his LET conversion running 260bhp lol, imo tho they are good for straight line fun but the most fun is round the bends so get a saxo lol, your best bet ab out asking about the XE's and LET's is www.corsasport.co.uk, there is a guy on there who will do the conversion for you at a price his name is beardy, he is currently working on a 4wd 900 twin LET corsa lol so he is the best person to ask

[blusax]

oil gets in the water as the oil preasure is higher than the water preassure so bare in mind when u go see one is to lookin the water header. also i beat corsa let in a straight line to 60 is the mofo just kept spinning i could get my xe to spin in 3rd with 17's with brand new toyo t1's. would go for a let if you could just for the hell of it but your looking at extra 500quid plus more work fitting IC and more than likely turbo problems.

plus i can hook you up with beardy on msn if you want as he done me a tigra turbo before!

but as you said its not that hard

[OLLYVTS]

I did have a look into droping a let in a corsa but im on a tight budget and they go for £800-£1200 by the looks of it for the engine and box.As for get a saxo i have got one but im selling it and want to start a new project.

[OLLYVTS]

Cheers blusax i will bear that in mind when i go and look at one.

[Yates]

blu what was yours like getting power down? also send a copy of your rr graph to patvts lol

my mates used to just spin up to 3rd, altho i never knew if it was just him driving like a nobber

[blusax]

to be fair it was a bastard in the wet dont know if it was the tyres or not.

in the dry and going uphill it used to feel like it was ripping the tarmac up

i also had the vectra v6 brakes on front and back so it would stop quite quickly aswell

[OLLYVTS]

blu what was yours like getting power down? also send a copy of your rr graph to patvts lol

my mates used to just spin up to 3rd, altho i never knew if it was just him driving like a nobber

Imao send a copy to patvts.;)

[Yates]

i think i seen him in the wet with it

i always think i want one at some point, i mean for 1500 its one hell of a fast car, get it all set up proper as well

[OLLYVTS]

Yea thats right for the money it is quick car,and it will keep me busy and should be good fun building it.I will make a progress thread so you can see i how i get on.

[gojka]

lol yeh ma m8 got a 1.6corsa sport for 1400 then he went n spent 1500 on the let with a stage 2 chip on the ecu to take it to 260bhp, wiring loom and an f28 gearbox iirc but its all in now and shud have it back by next week:D

[Yates]

should be cool, as said that sportboy or sportyboy has an awesome one very clean

most ones i know are dogs, altho my mate did have a really clean nova, well til u looked up close and realised he had sprayed his front and back bumper, i say sprayed i think it was finger paints...

and get some speedlines on it, i forget the name, 5 spoke star shape being with an a i think look awesome

[Mieran]

I was gona go see this Corsa today but when I rang him he said its not for sale anymore till oil pump is fixed or something (sounded dodgy)
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/685372.htm

Also a few weeks ago this came up but didn't have money to buy it!
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/674606.htm

Imo it'll work out cheaper if you buy a Corsa that is already had the conversion and work on suspension/brakes etc.

Now I changed my mind and want a Civic, Vtec ftw. :afro:

[Yates]

I was gona go see this Corsa today but when I rang him he said its not for sale anymore till oil pump is fixed or something (sounded dodgy)
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/685372.htm

Also a few weeks ago this came up but didn't have money to buy it!
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/674606.htm

Imo it'll work out cheaper if you buy a Corsa that is already had the conversion and work on suspension/brakes etc.

Now I changed my mind and want a Civic, Vtec ftw. :afro:

but its more fun doing it yourself, plus you could find an old cav with an old guy driving, you know its in good condition and get all the stuff

you dont know if everything has been done proper on the corsa with it already in, plus could be problems you dont know bout, where as changin engine over you may come across some, plus its probs of been trashed everywhere, i suppose people say same bout the vts but i think more so with the corsa red top if you see what im saying?

[Mieran]

True, I would love to do the conversion myself too.

But I don't have a garage at home and my mechanical knowledge isn't great so thats why I was looking for Corsas which already been converted.

[Yates]

True, I would love to do the conversion myself too.

But I don't have a garage at home and my mechanical knowledge isn't great so thats why I was looking for Corsas which already been converted.

oh yeah fair enough that way, but if you have the ability or know someone with it its always a laugh

just when i looked they were wanting 2k or more, when its cost less to build it

[Sammy-Boy]

My mate dropped a 2L into his 1.6. He's a qualified mechanic so labour wise there was obviously nothing to pay and parts he sourced from local places. I think it cost him in the region of £1000

[OLLYVTS]

but its more fun doing it yourself, plus you could find an old cav with an old guy driving, you know its in good condition and get all the stuff

you dont know if everything has been done proper on the corsa with it already in, plus could be problems you dont know bout, where as changin engine over you may come across some, plus its probs of been trashed everywhere, i suppose people say same bout the vts but i think more so with the corsa red top if you see what im saying?

You are right there its much to it yourself,also when i take the rep top out of my donnor i can service it and change the cam belt,gaskets,clutch ect.
If my funds let me i can also drop and new set of fast roads cams in it,but we will have to see when i find a donnor car.