The UK...whys it gone to the dogs

[Mikey]

the job i do atm is civil engineer, but i am starting a part time degree in construction management next wednesday. the course is 4 years which will take me till im 25. I just had a look at jobs abroad and came across australia as it seems popular. and i could earn 170 thousand dollars a year there with my degree. here i would earn about 50 to 60k.

just wondering if anyone could move there? and would they wanna leave everything they know behind for cash?

cheers :y:

[betty02]

No my mum and dad are moving to america after xmas all goes well get my own place and stay here, need a loodger though cant afford anywere on my tod! Just cant elave my mates and what i ahve here already to start a new life, when there snothing bad in the current lifestyle ive got

[alex19]

Whats the quality of life between the two.

[Clouds_mate]

This came up last night in the pub. My friend has been approached by a company to live down under. A good handful of my mates have lived abroad and stuff for the summer but every one still said no.

I would love to move out to Dubai or something but i dont think i could do it, as much as dicks my mates are and how much i hate my lifestyle atm i dont think i could just pack up and piss off.

[Mikey]

ive been to australia to visit my unlce for a month about 3 years ago. it is a great place to live, clean, didnt see any tramps lol. hot of course. just a long way away. and the fact of leaving everyone behind would be tough! unless you take your mrs.

[Peejous]

The way things are in the world i'd quite happily move to Iraq

[Mikey]

it would be a better life for your kids if you had any to. out doors all day. decent weather. beach!


it is attractive lol

[betty02]

ive been to australia to visit my unlce for a month about 3 years ago. it is a great place to live, clean, didnt see any tramps lol. hot of course. just a long way away. and the fact of leaving everyone behind would be tough! unless you take your mrs.

Yeah its all great and the grass is greener, say u tkae ur mrs u split u just want the comfort of ur family or something happens u have a shit day so want to go out get lashed with the lads u cant, fair enoguh u will have new mates which will take ur mind of things but tis also the effort of finding them new mates and stuff and things might seam to be going mint but theres times in ur life u need ur family u will miss em my mum n dad went for 6 months i struggled, but im not going to stop there dream of going but tis going to kill me, know there so many miles away if i need em

Say u get seriously ill?

[Mikey]

thats the bad bit....lonelyness

[E1999G]

Theres loads of them type of jobs going down there at the moment! Im looking to move to florida for a year and work out there in May. Just need to find a job first!

[Luke]

I personally couldn't move abroad for the simple fact, as much I hate life over here - Paying Tax, weather etc it's home if you know what I mean.

Friends Dad moves to Abu Dhabi (sp) on Sunday to be a Director of massive oil company, but she doesn't want to go so is moving in with her sister.

[Sophie123]

I fully intend to move to Aus or New Zeland once ive graduated.
I dont like the way this country is heading, even before all this recession stuff started.

Id much rather be an immigrant in a country where they are strict about who they let in, and where the prime minister actually has the balls to say what the whole country is thinking rather than pussy footing around.

[Mikey]

i wonder how many people go out and come back within weeks hating it

[betty02]

Thing is it's nto as easy as it looks it takes months and months, well my mum and dad decided to go 2 years ago, there still here and aint going until after xmas, u need to find jobs get work permits proper health insurance, green cards, vias passes everything, sounds like a few simple thing but really its not takes months of planning and takes months to get approved etc no matter were or whos going takes a good bit of time!

[Peejous]

Seriously though both my Mom and my brother moved to Australia and said coming back to this shit country is so depressing.

They'd both go back in an instant.

Brothers still got loads of stuff over there.

[Clouds_mate]

i wonder how many people go out and come back within weeks hating it

The wifes best friend moved out there 3 years ago, they lived it up for 6months then she became pregaz with there third child. They came back to the UK and had nothing, no job or home. They sorted that and she had the baby.

Shes waiting till the yougest is 6 then they will be going back out. Since returning shes started to study to come a nurse and her husband is a sparky now for my mrs dads company. That way they can get easy access back into the country.

They loved it and cant wait to go back.

[a17vts]

I could move abroad tomorrow but I have a good job so don't feel I want to take the risk, as I may not be able to earn as much if I moved away. Although my GF was informed yesterday that she could have a job tranfer to NY in 6 months time for 1 years with the possiblilty to have a full time role out there. We have been discussing the offer all night as she get put in a flat for the first year for almost nothing and we both love NY.

The main problem is I don't think my GF can leave her family for that amount of time.

[Mochachino]

am moving to spain pretty soon. Goin on the 29th this month to get work permit n for a holiday :p

solid saving atm, gonna move in with my girls parents for a month or two untill we sort our selfs out then get our own place.

Cant wait!!

[Clouds_mate]

What are you going to do in Spain mate?

I would find it hard out there, I would need to go somewhere that speaks English.

[AdamW]

Takes a strong minded person to move abroad and be all on your own from day one.

Me personally I wouldnt leave for good....would try it for 6months and then come back. See what a decent job here could offer me....if not I would pack up and leave again.

A decent city job here and a penthouse flat would suffice me.....50-70k a year and I would be happy

[Mochachino]

What are you going to do in Spain mate?

I would find it hard out there, I would need to go somewhere that speaks English.


well il be at altea which is where they live, near benidorm, and theres loads on english there.

I can walk straight into a job next day after im there, which is telesales, her 2 sisters do it, ones on 400euros a week and the other is the one getting me a job becouse her bf is the manager. Its an english call center btw.

Also her dad does sky instalations (self employed), and he said i could work with him, they get 400 euros a job, n id get 50euro to start with, for 2 hours work, which is okay i guess.

i dont speak a word of spanish, and tbh i dont really need to over there, BUT i want to learn it anyway, would feel rude going to another country n not speaking it.

[Yates]

i could, and as for lonliess every time you move in england you have to start again really, well if its away from home then its a start, i just think its down to how you make it really, way i look at it is do everything you can, if chances are there go for it, dont think well i could of moved but just didnt fancy it always do stuff mikey if you can do it

i want to go on a years draft to aussie or nz navy at some point at least

[AdamW]

Hate any countries that dont speak english.....does my head in...not their fault I know.

Best way to get your point across....Speak alot louder...if that doesnt work, smash the place up

[Clouds_mate]

Yeh on the spanish coasts you will be fine with the English. I was meaning more mainland with zero tourists. Bet it would be great living out in the sticks somewhere in Spain. Nice big house, swimming pool and the ability to walk around naked. Would rock.

[Yates]

in rio hardly anyone spoke english, somehow we managed to tell them things

was one kid in macdonalds that spoke english, felt sorry for him the two weeks we were there, got all kinds of abuse from everyone for gettin orders wrong

[Mochachino]

Yeh on the spanish coasts you will be fine with the English. I was meaning more mainland with zero tourists. Bet it would be great living out in the sticks somewhere in Spain. Nice big house, swimming pool and the ability to walk around naked. Would rock.


i know someone that did that, i used to work with him, and he moved to mainland spain, and they dont have cars, get around on horses everywhere lol. But then he fell off his horse n broke both his legs n arms. But he said its loads more laidback, even though he was working. A holiday and earning, not bad eh :p

he was spanish anyway, so it isnt quite the same for us english yobs.

[Danr]

I'd move abroad if i was a skilled worker as such. Not really much need abroad for an estate agent/cunt.

[SAJosh]

I don't reckon I could, things are shit in the UK but i'd still wanna come back.

Although lately I've got an urge to travel... never really thought about it before but I just wanna get away not left the UK for a couple of years poowee

[Gazzza]

i dont want to move house !!!!!!! let alone the country (exept holidays)

[Clouds_mate]

Kinda forgot but my new boss and the guy im currently sat next to is an Aussie lol hes been here 7 years.

[Danr]

I wouldn't say no to moving somewhere else in this country. Just upping sticks and jsut having a complete lifestyle change!!!!

[Clouds_mate]

I wouldn't say no to moving somewhere else in this country. Just upping sticks and jsut having a complete lifestyle change!!!!

Same mate, wouldnt mind a city centre life style. No car and a nice flat in the city. But dont fancy any of them in the UK lol

[Pocket_Rocket]

Work to live pal, Not Live to work

[LeeM]

i went to tenerife Iast year with the ex, my mum lived out there at the time too but i still felt pretty isolated.
i think england is always home regardless of where abouts you are, moving abroad just feels wrong

[Danr]

Same mate, wouldnt mind a city centre life style. No car and a nice flat in the city. But dont fancy any of them in the UK lol

I want to move to Brighton. It's amazing! Never, ever had a bad time down there!

[Clouds_mate]

I want to move to Brighton. It's amazing! Never, ever had a bad time down there!

Yeh ive been to Brighton a few times was a cool place. Not a place i would like to pack up and moved to though.

[Recovery]

theres a program on T.V about moving to australia or staying in the UK, i think if the money is decent then why not? You can always visit back here aswell, also depends wether you have a misses or not.. if you have then it will be difficult to move away, unless she comes with you..

My parents are moving to cyprus in february, me and my sister have a flat organised for when they go, we had the choice to go with them, the only thing that is holdng me back is my job and my friends, havnt got a girlfriend so that wont cause a problem :P
who knows i may decide later, i know one thing though, free accomodation in cyrus for me! :D

[Mikey]

What are you going to do in Spain mate?

I would find it hard out there, I would need to go somewhere that speaks English.

same as me this.

couldnt be assed with the language problems

[Craddock]

My parents are moving spain next year.

My sisters BF's brother moved to Aus, he was a Policemen here, Said he earns more doing window cleaning 8 months a year than he did Being a polcemen

[Graeme]

if i wasnt with my gf i would of moved to fueaventura months ago with my dad

just because i hate this weather and i hate my job

yeah you would miss people but life goes on and you make new friends

[djrem]

Australia.
You'll make big monies x

[djmartin]

I was goin to move abroad. but then realised where I was goin did not really have a good selection of winter jobs. due to working in the entertainment side of things I look around for those.

furteventura is where I was gonna go.
£250 a month for apparment
but then living costs food etc etc was not cheap there so I efused to go there and basicly live on fook all over the winter! so im planning on goin over next summer to dj there and then dj in Corfu 'greece' for a bit.

I actually had everything planned ready to go told all my friends,family old station I used to be with, left community group things (like carnival committee) and other stuff.

[Leedo]

go dude cus as youll be earning so much your mates can come over on holidays will b awsome get pissed and b rich :)

[Mikey]

when you think about it the only reason to stay here is your family amd mates

the weathers gash
the tax we pay is very expensive. for what? cack roads, police are just tax collectors.

the UK has slipped the past few years, imo coz thers to many people here.

[Barry123]

canada all the way.

yep I could move piss easy.

Moved away from home 5 years ago and never really looked back

[girlracer1597]

i want to move to spain im lucky because i no that my mom will come as well, she used to work in the pool industry and knows a lot about the chemical side of things and has a lot of contacts in the industry. Would be easy to set up a company dealing with the ex pats out there. also my fiancee is in the ambulance service and would also have no problem with work just need to learn the language better.

[Japman]

yea i would

would miss family and freinds though

[Mikey]

whys everyone leaving?

[Barry123]

check this... I got offered £50k a year to live and work in Kyst23423stan whatever the fuck it's called.

£50k... nice.

living in shitville on £50k... not so nice.


ps. that job is open to people with even a hnd in engineering... if there is anyone interested

[girlracer1597]

whys everyone leaving?

for a better standard of living, when i decide to start a family i want to bring my kids up in the best possible way and i cant see me being able to do this in the uk

[Barry123]

whys everyone leaving?

immigrantz innit.

in all seriousness... we live in a global economy. we can travell anywhere in the world in less than 24 hours... the world is huge, and there a lots of ace places to explore and enjoy... why stay in the same area for your entire life?

[Mikey]

but this is the UK lol not afgan!!

all the dregs are heading here and educated ones are going...

[bide_furio]

we are being forced out of our country becuase ppl are willing to come over and earn pittence! i wud got auz! got family there! but wud defo have to take missus or friend even if its just for a year!

[Sophie123]

Soon as my degree is done im gone.
My mom and dad are planning to sell the house and travel in a motorhome once i move out, so staying here for them would be silly because they will be all over the place.

[Mikey]

Soon as my degree is done im gone.
My mom and dad are planning to sell the house and travel in a motorhome once i move out, so staying here for them would be silly because they will be all over the place.

my mrs mum and dad have just bought a motor home with the same idea!

my mum and dad are going to ireland when my dad sells his businesses as thats were hes from..

[Zach]

I'm a bit fat and would probably drown in a pool of my own sweat if i were to even set foot in Australia.

I have little intention of moving anywhere soon. See how the UK problems turn out in 5 years, then my opinion might change.

[Tupps]

I'd love to move abroad

Haven't got the jacob's though

[Sophie123]

my mrs mum and dad have just bought a motor home with the same idea!


i work at place that sells the american motorhomes and the folks have been doing research for the past year or so.
another year till im done with uni, get them a discount on a nice motorhome, sell the house, i go to aus, they go wherever the hell they fancy.

[5c077y11]

me and my saxo are going to go to europe and drive across and back then change engines after

[Mikey]

i work at place that sells the american motorhomes and the folks have been doing research for the past year or so.
another year till im done with uni, get them a discount on a nice motorhome, sell the house, i go to aus, they go wherever the hell they fancy.

sounds a fun packed life :y::y::y::y: