Why do People say Saxo 1.1's are slow??

[-Dan-]

I was looking around at performance figures for various cars, including all the saxo's, and tbh the 1.1 saxo is actually a very fast car, for it's spec.

Citroen Saxo 1.1 (99 onwards)
0-60 - 12 secs
Top Speed 102

Peugeot 106 1.1
0-60 - 13.6-14.9 - 98 MPH (depending on model)

Citroen Saxo Furio 1.4 (00 onwards)
0-60 - 11.2 Secs - 109 MPH

Peugeot 106 1.4 Quiksilver
12.4 0-60
109 MPH

Peugeot 106 Rallye
9.7 Secs, 119 MPH

Citroen Saxo VTR 1.6
0-60 9.1 Secs, 120 MPH

Ford Focus
(1.4) 13.6 106 MPH
(1.6) 10.6 115 MPH

VW Golf
(1.4) 14.2 Secs, 102 MPH
(1.4 FSI) 12.5 Secs, 108 MPH
(1.6) 10.5 Secs, 119 MPH


Citroen Saxo VTS 1.6

7.6 Secs, 127 MPH

VW Golf GTI
6.4 Secs-7 Secs, 145-151 MPH (dependent on model)


And there we have it, now some people may start to appreciate that Citroen had 3 cars that set the bar, not just the VT's.

Rant Over! :p

[-Jason-]

Where did you get this info?

A s1 106 rallye in 11.8 im sceptical the box is made for acceleration

[craigy_87]

hmmm some of that cant be right surely

[CampDavid]

Citroen do their 0-60 with one (light) person in the car and little fuel, Peugeot do there tests with more people and a tank of fuel. the 1.1 106 and saxo have the same performance (which is a bit slow!)

[alex19]

Could say any car is fast compared to a moped or OAP mobile ;)

VW Golf
(1.4) 14.2 Secs, 102 MPH
(1.4s) 12.5 Secs, 108 MPH
(1.6) 10.5 Secs, 119 MPH

Whats the 1.4s?

Some good shiz there, 1.1 > VTS :P

[Giggz]

Usually as people in 1.1's try picking races with bigger cars and thus got the stereotype.

[Tupps]

because they are a slow car?

"the 1.1 saxo is actually a very fast car" < WHAT?!?!

[DJDannyB]

There nippy, not fast.

[Pat_Vts]

1.1 drinks as much fuel as a vtr i think aswell for some reason

[chinkostu]

1.1 drinks as much fuel as a vtr i think aswell for some reason

doubtful

they are nippy, i've suprisingly got 115 out of mine

sure, it took a bloody aeon to get there and it was on a motorway but its possible!

[Mk1VTR]

mate the info you have found isnt right!
1.1 are slow! nothing fast about them!

[danzman1991]

The 1.1 engine is faster than people think imo..

[alex19]

doubtful

they are nippy, i've suprisingly got 115 out of mine

sure, it took a bloody aeon to get there and it was on a motorway but its possible!

Sorry but your a fag for putting other people's lifes at risk because you wanted to see how fast it would go. Speeding isn't funny.

And I think a 1.1 would get through as much petrol as a VTR because you have to put your foot down more in a 1.1 to get more out of it, so basically using the same as a VTR when your lead footing the 1.1 against driving the VTR decently economical.

[cj_99]

doubtful

they are nippy, i've suprisingly got 115 out of mine

sure, it took a bloody aeon to get there and it was on a motorway but its possible!

on a autobahn i hope, anywhere else is just madness and stupidity

[-Dan-]

because they are a slow car?

"the 1.1 saxo is actually a very fast car" < WHAT?!?!

You'll notice I didn't exactly say that did I? I said the 1.1 Is a very fast car FOR IT'S CLASS. EG compared to Corsa's, Micra's etc.

1.4 Golf FSI is what I meant sorry.

I'm not saying it's remarkable because it's not, but it's not the source of ridicule that some people seem to think it is.

Oh and the stats are from Parkers, whether they're reliable or not is another matter?

[Finest_City]

1.1s are nippy not fast, and yeah harsh acceleration is probably needed lol

I'm pretty sure my friends quicksilver that was standard wiped my other friends 1.1 many times and it had induction kit n crap.

[Barry123]

1.1 round town are ok I guess. low weight = nippy

but any more than that and they're showing their (lack of) hp's

[AlexN]

106 rallye 11.8 seconds to 60??
there much faster

[Grant]

doubtful

they are nippy, i've suprisingly got 115 out of mine

sure, it took a bloody aeon to get there and it was on a motorway but its possible!


nippy but the engine screams in pain above 85, still feels like you need to change up.

could your mph clock be slightly out?

[-Dan-]

106 rallye 11.8 seconds to 60??
there much faster

I'm just putting down what I've seen, I was suprised it wasn't faster to 60, because it's meant to be practically the same as a VTR isn't it?

Sorry my mistake, The 1.3 Rallye was 9.7 which seems about right? But there is also a 1.6 Rallye which is says is 11.8 to 60, so I don't know what's going on there really?

I've driven one of my mates Quiksilvers, and It is nowhere near as quick as a furio, and both me and my mate, thought it was slower than my 1.1, so I think that would be probably about right. (Although it had done around 93000 miles).

[Steve]

I was looking around at performance figures for various cars, including all the saxo's, and tbh the 1.1 saxo is actually a very fast car, for it's spec.

Citroen Saxo 1.1 (99 onwards)
0-60 - 12 secs
Top Speed 102

Peugeot 106 1.1
0-60 - 13.6-14.9 - 98 MPH (depending on model)

Citroen Saxo Furio 1.4 (00 onwards)
0-60 - 11.2 Secs - 109 MPH

Peugeot 106 1.4 Quiksilver
12.4 0-60
109 MPH

Peugeot 106 Rallye
(1.3) - 11.8 Secs 115 MPH
(1.6) - 9.7 Secs 119 MPH

Citroen Saxo VTR 1.6
0-60 9.1 Secs, 120 MPH

Ford Focus
(1.4) 13.6 106 MPH
(1.6) 10.6 115 MPH

VW Golf
(1.4) 14.2 Secs, 102 MPH
(1.4s) 12.5 Secs, 108 MPH
(1.6) 10.5 Secs, 119 MPH


Citroen Saxo VTS 1.6

7.6 Secs, 127 MPH

VW Golf GTI
6.4 Secs-7 Secs, 145-151 MPH (dependent on model)

So the 1.1 is actually faster than the Quiksilver 1.4 106, only .8 secs slower than the furio, faster than a 1.4 focus, a 1.4 and 1.4 Sport VW Golf, and wipes the floor with the 1.1 106.

And there we have it, now some people may start to appreciate that Citroen had 3 cars that set the bar, not just the VT's.

Rant Over! :p


1.1's ARE SLOW. Do you stick your foot down and shoot off? theres no power at all imo.

Are you one of these people that sits in a car park and says i can beat you, i know that because i read it on parkers lmao

[Tupps]

My response was just to the threads title Dan - Because they are a slow car

Compared to other cars in "it's class" they're probably on par with them

[Mardgee]

imo a vtr is a slow car if you look at all cars, where as a vtr and vts are fast cars for most people.

[-Dan-]

1.1's ARE SLOW. Do you stick your foot down and shoot off? theres no power at all imo.

Are you one of these people that sits in a car park and says i can beat you, i know that because i read it on parkers lmao

There isn't any need to get like that tbh is there. NO I don't sit in car parks, NO i Don't street race, and no I'm not the kind of person to base the speed of a car on stats, I'm just saying that they aren't as pathetically slow as some people might Imagine.

I'm trying to commend Citroen on making very competitive cars, which for the prices you would have paid would be exceptional performance for the money, whether it was the 1.1, Furio, VTR or VTS.

[CampDavid]

Sorry but your a fag for putting other people's lifes at risk because you wanted to see how fast it would go. Speeding isn't funny.

And I think a 1.1 would get through as much petrol as a VTR because you have to put your foot down more in a 1.1 to get more out of it, so basically using the same as a VTR when your lead footing the 1.1 against driving the VTR decently economical.

Indeed. Speed causes 116% of all accidents and rapes children in the night.

The 1.1 does around 97mph on the flat. The speedos are mostly about 10% out so, down a hill yo'll see about 115mph on the clocks (104ish in reality)

115mph in my VTS was around 135mph on the clocks.

[E1999G]

They are slow - Fact!
Compared to cars similar they are the same because the similar cars are slow

[alanrichie]

every1 is a nancy in this thread to be honest

www.parkers.co.uk

go check yourselves...

[-Dan-]

every1 is a nancy in this thread tbh

www.parkers.co.uk

go check yourselves...

Thank you mate.

Much Appreciated :y:

[Steve]

There isn't any need to get like that tbh is there. NO I don't sit in car parks, NO i Don't street race, and no I'm not the kind of person to base the speed of a car on stats, I'm just saying that they aren't as pathetically slow as some people might Imagine.

I'm trying to commend Citroen on making very competitive cars, which for the prices you would have paid would be exceptional performance for the money, whether it was the 1.1, Furio, VTR or VTS.

1.1's are slowwwwwwwwwa :homme:

[alanrichie]

Thank you mate.

Much Appreciated :y:

:y::geek:

[keithm_007]

Just on the Quicksilver thing. No way is a 1.1 Saxo quicker than a 106 Quicksilver. Admittedly theres not much in it but Quicksilver is still quicker. I've had 2 1.1 Saxos and now have a Quicksilver so I would know.

[alanrichie]

Just on the Quicksilver thing. No way is a 1.1 Saxo quicker than a 106 Quicksilver. Admittedly theres not much in it but Quicksilver is still quicker. I've had 2 1.1 Saxos and now have a Quicksilver so I would know.

did you sit with a stopwatch and time both cars like?

your obviously going to say a quicksilver is faster, you bought one, you own one!

[Steve]

did you sit with a stopwatch and time them like?

your obviously going to say a quicksilver is faster, you bought one, you own one!

no need to you can feel da powaaa!

[keithm_007]

did you sit with a stopwatch and time both cars like?

your obviously going to say a quicksilver is faster, you bought one, you own one!

No, they are just quite clearly slightly quicker, hence the insurance categories.

[Steve]

did you sit with a stopwatch and time both cars like?

your obviously going to say a quicksilver is faster, you bought one, you own one!


yeah he bought one, owns one because there faster then 1.1's lol

thats like saying your obviously going to say your ferraris faster then a saxo because you own a ferrari


hows the solicitors job going?

[Danr]

I've always felt that the saxo is one of the nippiest 1.1's in their class. Comparing it to the 1.1 fiesta i had before the saxo felt alot quicker.

It's when you compare it to cars that aren't really in the class. Things like vtr's, vts's etc. that you start to notice their lack of pace. Consider how long 2 seconds actually is. It's a long time in car terms! When you watch formula one watch how big a gap the first car gets if he's lapping a second quicker than someone!

[-Dan-]

TBH I don't think anyone is ever going to fully agree with what anyone else says, so this was probably a pointless thread in hindsight, but yes I agree that a VTR would ass-rape a 1.1, nowhere have i ever disputed this.

You keep saying they are slow, but what are they slow compared to? If your comparing them to the VTR and VTS, then yes, it gets wiped the floor with, but why would you compare it to those?

Compared to the cars it competes for the market with EG the Corsa's, Micra's, and 106's it's not slow.

That's what this whole thread was meant to be about.

Otherwise you could just go around saying the VTS is slow. Because compared to a Zonda or Ferrari, it is. But that's clearly not the case, as It's a very fast little car.

You can see my point surely?

[keithm_007]

hows the solicitors job going?

Jesus this is what I really hate about this forum. People get on other's backs far too quickly. Bored now, have fun discussing 1.1 vehicles...

[Steve]

Jesus this is what I really hate about this forum. People get on other's backs far too quickly. Bored now, have fun discussing 1.1 vehicles...

wtf lol

clearly taking the piss and that, why you getting emotional. Was defending your quicksilver before and now this............
What you mean on other peoples backs? Not a piggy back ride.

PM'd you to give you some counciling.

Not rocket science to find he works at a solicitors look at his e-mail address, clearly a piss take. lmfao + so is my work.

[Steve]

TBH I don't think anyone is ever going to fully agree with what anyone else says, so this was probably a pointless thread in hindsight, but yes I agree that a VTR would ass-rape a 1.1, nowhere have i ever disputed this.

You keep saying they are slow, but what are they slow compared to? If your comparing them to the VTR and VTS, then yes, it gets wiped the floor with, but why would you compare it to those?

Compared to the cars it competes for the market with EG the Corsa's, Micra's, and 106's it's not slow.

That's what this whole thread was meant to be about.

Otherwise you could just go around saying the VTS is slow. Because compared to a Zonda or Ferrari, it is. But that's clearly not the case, as It's a very fast little car.

You can see my point surely?


106's and saxos are the same car ;)

compared to a 1ltr corsa yes they are slightly faster, but overall still slow lol

[frankie]

if a vtr can do 120 according to your info

and a 1.1 does 102mph

that 18mph difference....

making it slow(er)

[-Dan-]

Well I'm happy just cruising along at the speed limit, my car will always reach the speed limit, and anything over that would be illegal, therefore it's not slow, It's just right ;)

[keithm_007]

very fast little car.

Its definately not very fast. Nippy is the best word. To be very fast you have to feel like your face is going to get pulled off, I don't think that's the case. Nippy though for sure.

[Steve]

Well I'm happy just cruising along at the speed limit, my car will always reach the speed limit, and anything over that would be illegal, therefore it's not slow, It's just right ;)

not unless you take it to a track / nurburgring / autobahn :A:

look at what you have caused, you have upset keith and everything.

[keithm_007]

Well I'm happy just cruising along at the speed limit, my car will always reach the speed limit, and anything over that would be illegal, therefore it's not slow, It's just right ;)

Why do people always say this when threads about speed appear? Like they've never been above the speed limit EVER.

[Steve]

Its definately not very fast. Nippy is the best word. To be very fast you have to feel like your face is going to get pulled off, I don't think that's the case. Nippy though for sure.

i class a standard vtr as nippy lol

[Steve]

Why do people always say this when threads about speed appear? Like they've never been above the speed limit EVER.

he said its fast enough to hit the limit not get over it. Its a 1.1 there slow ;)

[Pat_Vts]

i class a vts nippy

[frankie]

he is from somerset....

we draft tractors for extra mph down here.

[Steve]

i class a vts nippy

what about an aston martin db9?

there fairly nippy tbh

[Steve]

he is from somerset....

we draft tractors for extra mph down here.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=y0Ryn0HzLyg

faster then a 1.1 saxo?

[-Dan-]

Why do people always say this when threads about speed appear? Like they've never been above the speed limit EVER.

Lol. Well you know how it goes, people just don't admit to that sort of thing. I'm not meaning to cause offence to people, I'm just disagreeing that it's slow. It's not fast either. But then again it all depends on where you set your boundries.

[keithm_007]

Lol. Well you know how it goes, people just don't admit to that sort of thing. I'm not meaning to cause offence to people, I'm just disagreeing that it's slow. It's not fast either. But then again it all depends on where you set your boundries.

I know what you're saying, for you its what you want and thats fine. It was great for me for about a year then I got bored, just wanted a little extra. Once you drive anything that actually is fast, then you will see the 1.1 is pretty slow in reality. (i'm not saying Quicksilver is fast in saying that by the way. Drive something 2000cc and you will see Saxo is slow)

[Tom5190]

im one happy chappy reading that, thing is tho wot people are sayin is that the 1.1 is quick for its engine size, its still got nothing on any VT or anything in that sort of class.

[Steve]

For people who do know me, i am clearly taking the piss.

It has come to my attention that people are reading my posts too seriously lmao

Apologise to keith for asking alan about his job.
And dan for saying his car is slow (which it is)

Drive something 2000cc and you will see Saxo is slow
not true if you have a vtr/vts < thats not a piss take.

[Pat_Vts]

aston martin db9 is rapiddddddd

i class vtr fairly slow

vts nippy

honda type r quick

scooby very quick

db9 etc rapido

[Steve]

im one happy chappy reading that, thing is tho wot people are sayin is that the 1.1 is quick for its engine size, its still got nothing on any VT or anything in that sort of class.

hit the nail on the head.

http://www.worth1000.com/entries/85500/85727qwYV_w.jpg

[frankie]

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=y0Ryn0HzLyg

faster then a 1.1 saxo?

hahahha havent seen that in ages.

FAF

[-Dan-]

For people who do know me, i am clearly taking the piss.

It has come to my attention that people are reading my posts too seriously lmao

Apologise to keith for asking alan about his job.
And dan for saying his car is slow (which it is)


not true if you have a vtr/vts < thats not a piss take.

No probs :y:

Pat_VTS has got it in one. Slow or fast depends on what your opinion is.

In my opinion a 1.1 is nippy
VTR - Quick
VTS - Very Quick
Scoob/Evo - Stupidly Fast
DB9 + - Unbelievable.

[dobbo_1]

aston martin db9 is rapiddddddd

i class vtr fairly slow

vts nippy

honda type r quick

scooby very quick

db9 etc rapido

agreed

[keithm_007]

In my opinion a 1.1 is nippy
VTR - Quick
VTS - Very Quick
Scoob/Evo - Stupidly Fast
DB9 + - Unbelievable.

Totally agree with this. Why would would ever need the power a DB9 etc offers is beyond me.

[JC-Furio]

Totally agree with this. Why would would ever need the power a DB9 etc offers is beyond me.

Saying that, you could argue why do you need to have a car which does over 70mph?

In all fairness, if it gets you from A>B at the speed limit, you're sorted.

[keithm_007]

Doing over 70mph isn't that dangerous. Having a car that accelerate so quickly some poorer drivers can't control it is.

[JC-Furio]

Doing over 70mph isn't that dangerous. Having a car that accelerate so quickly some poorer drivers can't control it is.

Didn't say it was dangerous, was just making the point that if you followed the rules of driving you wouldn't need a car which did over 70mph. (In the UK).

[CampDavid]

Doing over 70mph isn't that dangerous. Having a car that accelerate so quickly some poorer drivers can't control it is.

It's only what you're used to. When I first got my 306 Rallye it felt awesomely quick, the GTI-6 I have now feels like it's tied to a tree, though it probably has a touch more power.

Cars only feel fast for about the first ten minutes, then you get used to it and want more. It's a human condition.

40 years ago a VTR would have been quick enough to beat the Porsches on the Monte Carlo (largely down to radial tyres) now it's a slow car

[Jamie]

1.1's arent slow but when compared to other engines they are indeed slow, they are not built with speed in mind, they are built like most cars to get from A - B however bigger engines were obviously built with speed in mind more.

My girlfriends 106 1.1 XL is as economical as my old vtr! lol

[PSPDan]

I don't understand why people have this huge fascination with fast cars. As if driving a VTR makes you much more of a man than someone who drives a 1.1?

The fact that I drive a 1.1 doesn't make much difference to me as it easily gets up to the speed limits which are there for a reason.

[CampDavid]

I don't understand why people have this huge fascination with fast cars. As if driving a VTR makes you much more of a man than someone who drives a 1.1?

The fact that I drive a 1.1 doesn't make much difference to me as it easily gets up to the speed limits which are there for a reason.

Odd post for a car forum. I half agree, no point in having a performance car if you aren't going to use it, that's why I drive a Metro when heading to Sainsburys

[kcsaxo]

power is a state of mind, i know people who are shit scared of driving but on the flip side theres also people i know who can handle supercars as easy as they do breathing. i personally think my 1.1 does its job of getting me around however i also get frustrated when i need the power, it all comes down to what you need the car for and does it fulfill you criteria.

[PSPDan]

Odd post for a car forum. I half agree, no point in having a performance car if you aren't going to use it, that's why I drive a Metro when heading to Sainsburys

Maybe an odd post. But I'm more interested in making my 1.1 look good than making it go faster. If someone offered me a fast car I'd obviously take it but I don't like the way people think they can use it as a status symbol...

[CampDavid]

Maybe an odd post. But I'm more interested in making my 1.1 look good than making it go faster. If someone offered me a fast car I'd obviously take it but I don't like the way people think they can use it as a status symbol...

Isn't making it look good more of a status symbol?

Personally I've gone the otherway. I have a 306 GTI-6 (not the coolest thing in the world) and have taken off the GTI badges (the coolest thing about the car) and now only drive it when people won't see me (country lanes, long distance) and take the metro when I am going to any public place local to my house.

[PSPDan]

Isn't making it look good more of a status symbol?

Personally I've gone the otherway. I have a 306 GTI-6 (not the coolest thing in the world) and have taken off the GTI badges (the coolest thing about the car) and now only drive it when people won't see me (country lanes, long distance) and take the metro when I am going to any public place local to my house.

Personally I only want to make it look good for myself. It doesn't bother me too much what other people think of it :P..

I don't mean this forum but I mean in life in general people tend to have this fascination with fast/expensive cars. I'd have more respect for a war veteran in a reliant robin than some posh prick in a lambo.

[Steve]

I don't understand why people have this huge fascination with fast cars. As if driving a VTR makes you much more of a man than someone who drives a 1.1?

The fact that I drive a 1.1 doesn't make much difference to me as it easily gets up to the speed limits which are there for a reason.

Whats it got to with being more of a man. Take into concideration the dangers of a 1.1 at times, the speed it takes you to overtake a tractor in country lanes, to nip out into the outside line and overtake a car.

Things like that i feel unsafe in a 1.1.


Also you've missed out the fact people take their cars on track, 1.1 would be boring compared to a VTR/VTS

Most people prefer a nippier car as you get just as good mpg, feels safer (imo) and its nice to know you have the power there if you need it.

Al admit i cant see the point in people having big powerful cars, if there not going to use it. I.E porche gt3 and nipping to tescos.

Just things to think about rather then thinking people all think my engines bigger then yours.

:y:

[PSPDan]

Whats it got to with being more of a man. Take into concideration the dangers of a 1.1 at times, the speed it takes you to overtake a tractor in country lanes, to nip out into the outside line and overtake a car.

Things like that i feel unsafe in a 1.1.


Also you've missed out the fact people take their cars on track, 1.1 would be boring compared to a VTR.


Just things to think about rather then thinking people all think my engines bigger then yours

:y:

I completely see what you're saying and I agree. But I know a lot of people who want to go out and buy beamers and stuff, and I can tell you for a fact it's not because they feel unsafe overtaking tractors, it's because they think they will look cool speeding through the streets in a fast car.

If they had the intention of only driving fast on a track then fair play to them, but they don't which is the worrying thing. I don't mean people on this forum btw just to make that clear :P

[Steve]

I completely see what you're saying and I agree. But I know a lot of people who want to go out and buy beamers and stuff, and I can tell you for a fact it's not because they feel unsafe overtaking tractors, it's because they think they will look cool speeding through the streets in a fast car.

If they had the intention of only driving fast on a track then fair play to them, but they don't which is the worrying thing. I don't mean people on this forum btw just to make that clear :P

yeah i agree on that :y:

[VTR-Chris]

since wen was a VTR 9.7 secs?!

try 8 seconds

[Agent-VIP]

A 1.1 saxo, beats a quick silver to 60?

What are you smoking :\

[PSPDan]

A 1.1 saxo, beats a quick silver to 60?

What are you smoking :\

The stats are off parkers.co.uk, most of the stats on there seem ridiculous. They must use grannies as test drivers.

[oliver]

who ever owns a vtr/s is going to say a 1.1 is slow but whoever owns a 1.1 will defend it!!

[TypeRhys]

http://spams-ukwildcatbasketball.com/best_thread_ever.mbe.gif

[Prickle]

1.1 drinks as much fuel as a vtr i think aswell for some reason

they do drink the petrol lol, and the are nippy, but not fast, as it is a 1.1i :)

[Yates]

because they are a slow car?

"the 1.1 saxo is actually a very fast car" < WHAT?!?!

mate you know that the 1.1 is a mean machine

[Barry123]

the vtr is a bit a beauty actually and well rounded (have to go back on what I said yonks ago but hey ho). It's a good motorway gobbler (Overdrive gear) and has reasonable performance. the 1.1 is primarily a town car, an A-to-B thingy and nothing more... put the 1.1 out in the motorway and it's short gearbox, lack of power and it's mpg gets really really hammered. But it is a 10 year old engine design. the Mpi version is better, but not by a great deal.

[si_pow]

To be honest I wouldnt say a 1.1 was slow. I know a few people that have had them, and ive drove one myself. Certainly not a slow car, just not the quickest either.
Everyones perspective of slow and fast is different!

Ive only had 1.2's and 1.3's so now ive got my VTR and i can feel the extra umph its got. Now to me bein a new VTR owner i would say that was fast.

But, then to someone who is used to faster cars say for example 2.0, a VTR would be slow for them.

To be honest if you own 1.1 and someone says its slow, who cares!? as long as you have fun driving it, and its practical for you then just sit back and enjoy :D

[Yates]

vtr has never been 8 seconds 0-60 always been in 9 second catagory.

i has a 1.1 and its awesome i overtake all kinds in it, its actually not bad on country roads steve, can easily overtake tractors, you just have to know the roads lol

[Barry123]

vtr has never been 8 seconds 0-60 always been in 9 second catagory.

i has a 1.1 and its awesome i overtake all kinds in it, its actually not bad on country roads steve, can easily overtake tractors, you just have to know the roads lol

don't need a fast car to enjoy a few twisty corners...

[Steve]

don't need a fast car to enjoy a few twisty corners...

yeah a few but you always want more lmao

[AlexB]

will say for round town the 1.1 is good (i had 1 as most of you will remember)
it was shit tbh
even when i stripped it out to get it to perform a bit better it still sucked
but it was nippy for a little car

more towards handeling when i was finished with it but it had no speed to it at all

for going a>b yea there good

but other than that there is not much point

[Mystic]

There nippy, not fast.

A VTS is nippy. a 1.1 saxo is slow, as slow as my mums Zafira... Which, btw, is slow.

The saxo & pug equivilents are identical too, same chasis, same runnning gear, just the styling is different, slightly...

[Yates]

i like to get out of my 1.1 and jump in to my s and nearly kill myself

alex your saying a 1.1 is shit, yet you couldnt handle its powaaaaaa haha

[Steve]

i like to get out of my 1.1 and jump in to my s and nearly kill myself

alex your saying a 1.1 is shit, yet you couldnt handle its powaaaaaa haha

so much torque blew the drive shaft lmao

sorry alex had to :hug:

[Add91289]

i had a 1.1 and it drank ALOT more then my vtr. and it didnt really go anywere in a hurry either. but people said it did pull better then 106 and corsas up hills that theyd been in.
and if you compare it to ma mates old n reg 5 door corsa which was 40 bhp, a think 1.1s are ok lol.

[Yates]

i had a 1.1 and it drank ALOT more then my vtr. and it didnt really go anywere in a hurry either. but people said it did pull better then 106 and corsas up hills that theyd been in.
and if you compare it to ma mates old n reg 5 door corsa which was 40 bhp, a think 1.1s are ok lol.

if i compare the 1.1 to an old woman with a zimmer fram, its proper fast

[Steve]

if i compare the 1.1 to an old woman with a zimmer fram, its proper fast

fpmsl........

thats class haha

new sig that tbh