Max BHP out of a 1.1?

[-Dan-]

If you were to try to improve the performance of a 1.1, without Turboing or Supercharging, how much bhp would you think you'd be talking about?

Basically:

Enclosed Induction
Manifold
Full Exhaust
Remap

Maybe -
Cam(are there any upgraded Cam's for 1.1?)

Serious answers only please

Oh and anything anyone else would consider doing, feel free to recommend.
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[Predator_R32]

you may get it up to 75 - 85 bhp with all them and cams mate, tbh not worth the money, could just do a vts conversion for much less and gain more bhp

[Steve]

65??

what does it matter? wouldnt waste your money camming it, get dicked on by VTR's still.

[bullit]

turbo it

[Danr]

Evo has got 75bhp out of his 1.1 206 so far.

[KamRacing]

Money no object you will be able to get more power than a Gti out of the lowely 1.1

[-Dan-]

Money no object you will be able to get more power than a Gti out of the lowely 1.1

Without changing the engine aswell? Unfortunately though, money is an object. What would you suggest doing Kam? I don't want it to be a VTR eater or anything, I just want it to be a bit more responsive, with better high end power, because the acceleration isn't bad!

I don't want more suggestions of "Wack a VTR/S engine in it" because I know that's an option, I'm looking at alternatives.

Cheers

[VTR_Craig]

wouldn't worry about the top end tbh mate

if it does over 100 then thats all you will ever need.

I would get some decent suspension and brakes - they are also fun

as you said before - exhaust, induction fannymold,cams,remap, even they will be expensive

[Saxy_Me-chelle]

downersssss

[joshg_7]

not worth the money

[badasssaxo]

tbh mate it aint worth it either stick a vtr/s lump in it or wait and buy a vtr/s.

[Prickle]

tbh mate it aint worth it either stick a vtr/s lump in it or wait and buy a vtr/s.

whats with the "stick the vtr/s engine in etc" lol ffs sake :) he already knows that a alternative lol

[-Dan-]

whats with the "stick the vtr/s engine in etc" lol ffs sake :) he already knows that a alternative lol

Lol, cheers John, at least somebody read the post, I KNOW that I can stick a VTR/S engine in, but I'm also looking at alternatives, as I said before, I don't necesarily want VTR power, I just want to make it quicker, and I'm wondering how much this sort of stuff would add.

:y:

[luthor1]

With cam, headwork, exhaust manifold, exhaust, throttle bodies and management I'm sure you'd get it up to 110bhp, and it'd go really well, unfortunately you'd need to sell a kidney - the bhp per £ is not very good.

I'd seriously recommend full suspension bushes, shocks and springs that are focused on PERFORMANCE not LOOKS, decent chassis stiffening - upper/lower strut braces, maybe rear strut brace, and look at some very good discs (black diamond or the like) and some very good pads, also braided hosing, then sort yourself out some lightweight wheels and something like the Parada-2 tyre, or the R888.

This would make the lightweight 1.1 a REALLY fun backlane scratcher!

Also, with the chassis sorted and your driving skills coming along, when you CAN afford the engine conversion, you have a perfect car to drop it in.

Andy

[euro-vtr]

15 bhp maby 20

[dynebaruk]

Stripping it to reduce weight something you would consider?

If I was in your position I'd do what Luthor1 said :y:

[axbob]

strip it out i mean totally and ditch the inj and carb her

[shooorn94]

check this thread:

Link (http://www.saxperience.com/forum/showthread.php?t=64321)

He stated that he could nearly keep up with vtrs with his car fully stripped out and with the simple breathing mods he had done. His car wasn't excactly cheap-but it was done on a student budget (sort of)

Think about de-catting-must have for gaining a bit more oomph, then think about your air filter (raceland green enclosed filter should be on your wish list) a decent exhaust overall-getting the right back pressure, a decent 4-2-1 mani, and a good suspension set up. Then ask yourself if you want to strip the car, and if not no worries, just be happy with the fact your car will aprox 70Bhp :y:

All that lot will be aroundd the £600-£700 region brand new :A:

[Anthony]

As said here before, cheapest way to get more power is to strip it down to the bare metal inside, i mean take everything out just stick 1 seat in with the steering wheel. Should see quite a difference!

[VTEC-Saxo]

mate give up while your ahead, you can pick up a vts engine for under 500 just pointless to be ohnest doing up a 1.1 inless its for looks

[shooorn94]

Really what you should focus on is what I mentioned above, get the simple breathing mods sorted that can be easily transferred over to a vtr/vts engine if you consider upgrading at any point, most saxo and peugeot parts are interchangeable anyway so just focus on the exhaust and the air filter for now :y:

[DazzaVTS]

buy a vts ;)

[Mike-VTR]

if your desperate for more power just wait a while till you can afford a vts, then worry about what perfomance mods will get you the most horse power.

in a 1.1 the pounds spent to power gained ratio is too high imo