vts alternator belt

[saxo_bigbass]

when i start up my engine from cold i can hear the alternator side squeeling slightly. im sure its the belt. ive pressed down on the belt there is only a really small amount of play in it. how do i tughten or overcome the squeeling?

cheers :fcuk:

[Drago]

If the noise is going away when the car warms up i would say its too tight.
Check the tension as per haynes manual.

If this doesnt work then you will need a new auxillary belt, i had the same problem a few years back on a previous saxo.

A new belt sorted this

[AlexB]

there a pain the adjuster is under the pulley
jack up the car and then youll see the pulley an the adjuster under it loosen the pulley and adjust it so that tis at the right tension (use haynes as a reference)

[saxo_bigbass]

cheers. the car has got a new alternator and belt put on. so maeb it was put on too tight then. ill have to loosen it a bit then. will having it tight stretch the belt?

[VTS123]

If it's squeeling it isn't tight enough. There are two 13mm bolts you need to loosen and then adjust using a 5mm allen key - anticlockwise as you are winding the screw out (apologies if you already know this). I tend to avoid over tightening as it increases wear in the tensioner and alternator bearings. 1/2 to 1 turn of the allen screw may be enough to stop it. They often fell tight even when they are not tight enough to stop squeeling.

[saxo_bigbass]

only does this in the mornings when engine is cold. tbh it dsoesnt even look loose lol. its a new belt and alterntor. ill just take it too a garage and they will see.

[-Dan-]

Mine does this as well, not really sure why it is, might try tightening mine, have you tried tightening yours Saxo_Bigbass?

[geordie555]

mine is the same , its the alternator on mine, probally caused by the belt not being tight enough

[Prickle]

i think mine needs loosing a bit, (its newish) i can hear it whine when i go over a certain amount of revs

[saxo_bigbass]

mine maunly in the morning.itsd annoying. its brand new. seem tightish.got a litn amount of play . not sure on what to do. when u move the sterring wheel in the morinin can here a squelling noise.think it is ther alternator belt

[aaronrook20]

do as soon as possible............

i had recently fitted new atlernator and belt and have just recetly found out the bearings are fucked...

all because it was on to tight

i guess we learn from our mistakes :(

[saxo_bigbass]

will do asap mate. hope the belt dont fuck up lol

[J222JRA]

I had this problem on my vts and it was the crankshaft pulley but i didnt find it until i swapped the alternator belt, tensioner pulley , alternator, cambelt etc. This is the large pulley that drives the alternator belt at the bottom of the engine. Its made up of 3 parts, the outer ring where the belt goes on, the plate where it bolts up to the engine ang there is a piece of rubber in between them that holds them toghether, i dont know why citroen made it like this.

The reason it only does it when its cold is that there is more load on the belt when it initially starts in a morning.

The best way to check it is take the alternator belt off and se if there is any play in it. Definatly worth checking this as most people with a vts have had this problem.

GMC motorsport actually recognised this problem and make a billet aluminium one and its cheaper than the standard part.

[saxo_bigbass]

is ti worth buying the aluminium belt?? is it a belt? as long as i wont get more problems after this as i cant do with keep replacing things lol. got a link to the belt? cheers a normal belt cost like 6ppounds

[J222JRA]

its not the belt its the actual pulley, the centre slips and that is likely to be the squeak that you hear from cold startup.

http://www.gmcmotorsport.co.uk/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=59&products_id=232

Have a look at the item above.

Hope this helps

[saxo_bigbass]

thanks

[saxo_bigbass]

£70!!! lol

[Predator_R32]

it should have about a cm of slack on the belt when you press it down with your finger

[sati]

1cm is to much play! maxium of 0.5cm on largest part of the belt , you sholud be just able to turn the belt about 90 degree's. a quick short term fix is a bit of wd-40 on the belt. done this on quite few cars even on my bmw , as the belts are a piss to change but , ppl just like the guts to do it.

[saxo_bigbass]

there is slightly less then 1cm of play. pissing me off alot. im defo sure it is the belt. when i turn power sterring in cold in makes a squeeling noise as i said. is wd40 on belt safe to do? would silicone lubricant be safer?

[wigansaxo]

if you need a new belt mate give me a pm cos my dad gets like crazy discounts on some thing, because he works a contilental

[saxo_bigbass]

will let you know mate.proberly cost the same though getting it posted etc wont it?

[wigansaxo]

will let you know mate.proberly cost the same though getting it posted etc wont it?


i think it would still be cheaper tbh

[saxo_bigbass]

alternator belt is 6pounds from p.d.m motors. the belt is brand new anyways mate . could you maybe get hold of a coilpack? you got msn at all mate

[wigansaxo]

alternator belt is 6pounds from p.d.m motors. the belt is brand new anyways mate . could you maybe get hold of a coilpack? you got msn at all mate


na sorry cant get things like that, n na i dont have msn now

[saxo_bigbass]

o right cool

[DazzaVTS]

my alternator belt is screamin just when its on tickover when i spray wd-40 on it hsuts it up for a couple of days then comes back what do i need too sort this? and how much am i looking at?... too a mk1 vts by the way..

Kind Regards,

~ Dazza.

[saxo_bigbass]

shitty cars! got a brand new alternator and belt! cant even go back as it was fitted in lincolnshire lol. im gonn atry thewd wo as well. where do you spray it? all over the front of the belt or in the cogs? or on the edges of the belt so it drips under it?

[cj_99]

Mines does the same thing, mine sounds more the like the water pump though, the reason it doesnt squeal when warm is because the thing inside the pump (cant remember what its called) then this floats when the water is pushed around and stops the sound, so it could be the water pump if you have already had the alternator and belt changed

x

[saxo_bigbass]

water pump :( pretty sure its not this. well ill try the wd wo first. if it stop sthen its defo the belt. if i get cambelt done ill have to do water pump too

[J222JRA]

as ive said before mate, im sure that its the crankshaft pulley.

I cant imagine it been the cambelt or water pump, to test remove the alternator belt first thing in a morning and start it up.

If it squeaks then maybe it could be the cambelt, tensioner, water pump but i would be very suprised.

If it doesnt, its the crankpulley. If you speak to your local citroen dealer they will tell you that this is a common fault.

Hope this helps you.

[DazzaVTS]

when i spray wd40 on the alternator belt it stops str8 away but then comes bk about a couple of weeks later dependin on how often i use the car? so is this the alternator belt that needs changing on mine?...

[J222JRA]

Dazza

When mine decided to start squeaking it was intermitent at first, but its very possible that the belt may need adjusting.

As predator said there should be 1cm of movement when you press on the top of the belt. Have you ever swapped the belt? If not then it could be worth swapping it now as they do get worn, there only like £6 from most car parts shops.

[Prickle]

to test remove the alternator belt first thing in a morning and start it up.



wouldnt that damage anything starting it up with no alternator belt ??

a wonder thanks :)

[williamsvts]

no,. just wont charge the battery.

[J222JRA]

wont damage anything mate. The battery light will stay illuminated when you start it as its not charging.

[Prickle]

ah ok :)

[VTS123]

It probably just needs tightening. If it isn't tight enough it will be particularly apparent this time of year because there may be dampness on the belt as well as it having to do more work because you will probably have the blower/lights/rear demister all on at the same time. They often feel tight on VTSs even when they are not tight enough.

[jacko85]

Saxo VTS, i ran a multimeter on my battery the other day in acordance to the haynes manual every thing was as it should be bout 12v turned off then when turned on it went up between 13v n 14v thats with the battery light on whilst engine running as it can go off for a minute or so then come back on really dim when im out driving, but today i went to start it and it was pretty much flat :( could some one tell me about the wiring to the alternator like which is the earth ect.... thanks GAZ

[old_timer]

i think mine needs loosing a bit, (its newish) i can hear it whine when i go over a certain amount of revs

Have you had the cam belt changed recently? cos they will whine when revved it if its to tight

[old_timer]

Mines does the same thing, mine sounds more the like the water pump though, the reason it doesnt squeal when warm is because the thing inside the pump (cant remember what its called) then this floats when the water is pushed around and stops the sound, so it could be the water pump if you have already had the alternator and belt changed

x

What are u going on about? the thing inside the pump? i assume you mean the impeller the bit that actualy pushes the water around. If an alternator belt is squeeling it's because its slipping, it needs tightening. When an engine is started espessially first thing in the morning the alternator is working quite hard to recharge the battery, starting a cold engine takes a lot out of a battery. This will be made worse if you turn your lights heated rear window heater fan on.
If anew belt has been fitted and it has started squeeling again 1- was it a decent quality belt 2- new belts will streach slightly and will probably just need re-adjusting. If you suspect the alternator pop the belt off hold the alt. pulley and try to move up and down feeling for play, a little bit will be ok. Also spin the pully and listen for any noise should very quite if its making a rough noise bearings are worn this will make the belt work even harder.
Once belt is fitted twist it through 90 deg this should take a resonable amount of force if goes further its not tight enough.

[old_timer]

Saxo VTS, i ran a multimeter on my battery the other day in acordance to the haynes manual every thing was as it should be bout 12v turned off then when turned on it went up between 13v n 14v thats with the battery light on whilst engine running as it can go off for a minute or so then come back on really dim when im out driving, but today i went to start it and it was pretty much flat :( could some one tell me about the wiring to the alternator like which is the earth ect.... thanks GAZ

Ok matey lets start at the basics, first a good battery should show about 13v at rest (6 cells 2.2v per cell) and about 14v when engine is running (depending how good the battery is) and alternator light (battery light) is off. If your alternator light is on even very dimly this can be caused by many things , check earths on the engine/gearbox and at battery and body points. But the most likely problem will be the alternator itself, when checking the charge rate of an alternator it should be checked at the alternator itself as well as at the battery. Hope this helps.

[corsa_rob]

its the crankshaft pulley mate...mines just gone...basically the part will set you back £120 from shitroen! gmcmotorsport do a solid billet alloy version for £70 excluding vat that looks good! ive gotta buy mine soon as the pulley has broken in 2 now...(has an outer alloy ring and inner...and in between a rubber part...this rubber dies over time) CRAP DESIGN! well replace with all alloy...and jobs done!

[saxo_bigbass]

pulley fell off dont start up now :(

[jaxo]

lol same as me mate mine was doing the same and it fell off to day, my still runns but not for long till battery die but i cant steer lol

[saxotourdecorse]

as corsa rob says .........

[gavbey]

pulley fell off dont start up now :(

haha, unlucky m8.

mine is making the same noise.

is it wise to take the pully into work and weld it solid??

cant be arsed forking out 80 quid for an aluminium 1 which will just corode.


i might make it a little bit lighter by drilling some holes and balancing it.


any1 done this?




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