Confused about throttlebodies :S

[R555GED]

Ok ive a 2000 saxo with a TU5J4 engine.

I'm looking to put t/b's on it. But i have no idea where to start.
I was tempted by the jenvy units. But ive no idea about the management..
I know omex do a few with loom and all but im not surem
Can anyone shed some light about the subject??

Any help apreciated!

[don55]

S-E-A-R-C-H

gets asked daily

[vtr130]

jenvey 40mm tb's and omex 600 ecu :)

[AlexB]

42mm imo

[R555GED]

Would u be able to run the standard injectors with the jenvy bodies? Ive been serching the fourms and finding alot of people with ideas.

But for a good easy to do setup what would u guys recommend?

[vtr130]

42mm imo

40 :wall:

[vtr130]

Would u be able to run the standard injectors with the jenvy bodies? Ive been serching the fourms and finding alot of people with ideas.

But for a good easy to do setup what would u guys recommend?

Speak to a tuning company.... Get them to get parts and fit them :homme:

Dnt run standard injectors!! :wall:

[R555GED]

Speak to a tuning company.... Get them to get parts and fit them :homme:

Dnt run standard injectors!! :wall:

But where is the fun in that :D lol

noted your advice on the injectors ;)

[vtr130]

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o294/vtr171/IMG_1994.jpg

[AlexB]

40 :wall:

minimal dirrerence tbh lol
but im thinking 42s as im running a mad cam i think

[R555GED]

lol i thought i was bad, Nice car vtr... :O what setup are your running... are those 40's by any chance.. :P

[vtr130]

minimal dirrerence tbh lol
but im thinking 42s as im running a mad cam i think

My cam is as mad as they come you penis :P

190bhp n/a is a hard target ;)

lol i thought i was bad, Nice car vtr... :O what setup are your running... are those 40's by any chance.. :P

Let me find a spec list... Give me a minute!!

[AlexB]

My cam is as mad as they come you penis :P

190bhp n/a is a hard target ;)


im looking at a newman ph5

and im looking to 200 as a target (id be happy at 190ish lol)

[vtr130]

Catcams 809's (290 degree's)
Q-E-P Big valve head
Catcams solid lifters
Catcams uprated valve springs
Catcams shims
Modified valves
Vernier Pulleys
Wossner Group A pistons
Wossner conrods
Arp rod bolts
Bottom end rebuilt and bored to 89.5mm
Lightened and balanced fly wheel
Helix organic clutch
Series 2 rallye gearbox rebuilt with quaiffe diff
Maniflow cup car manifold
Maniflow cup car exhaust
Omex 600 ECU
Uprated injectors
40mm Jenvey sf throttle bodies

[vtr130]

im looking at a newman ph5

and im looking to 200 as a target (id be happy at 190ish lol)

Good luck your aiming to high... And i would stick to catcams all day long, your going to lose all midrange with a cam to wild and you will have to rev the tits out of to get any power. Not to mention finding a suitable gearbox.

I would look at 734's, 809's or 810's :drink:

[R555GED]

Very nice!, I take it your bought the kit for the TU5 off jenvy with the manifoild and rail and bodies together?

[AlexB]

i like to aim a bit high tbh hence the id be happy at 190
ive had newmans before (ph3s in my vts and there going in my 106 gti)

the ph 5 looks a good cam but ive not seen one bein run as of yet whih is why im asking about at whos got what lol

[vtr130]

i like to aim a bit high tbh hence the id be happy at 190
ive had newmans before (ph3s in my vts and there going in my 106 gti)

the ph 5 looks a good cam but ive not seen one bein run as of yet whih is why im asking about at whos got what lol

Well run it mate, i don't know the lift at 1mm or degrees of the cam... But 42's are to ig for a 1600!!

[vtr130]

Very nice!, I take it your bought the kit for the TU5 off jenvy with the manifoild and rail and bodies together?

Yes mate...

[AlexB]

Well run it mate, i don't know the lift at 1mm or degrees of the cam... But 42's are to ig for a 1600!!

ive got specs for the ph5 on an excell document (due to needint to set the timing on the ph3s he sent all the specs lol)
ive heard of a few on 42mm so im looking at it

atm im just looking about really as ive not finished the chassis work yet motor is last on the list

[R555GED]

my next question lol.. did u get the omex ecu with a premade loom? was it worth it?

And yes i am a question whore

[vtr130]

No i didn't get a premade loom..... If you pm me i might be able to sort something out!!

[Mr_suv]

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o294/vtr171/IMG_1994.jpg

i still hate you craig! only becausei want it bad!

[Nick_C]

Below is the rr print out from my race car engine.
42mm Jenvey bodies, forged pistons and rods, cat cams 803, modified head with standard size valves, supersprint manifold with pugsport exhaust. Running clio 172/182 injectors.

Nick

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c290/Nick_206_180/106%20GTI/106GTI.jpg

[luthor1]

If your car is a single plug type, then the ECU I make I can fit and map on throttle bodies for £550. It's plug and play, so no cutting the wiring loom, and it's fully remappable. It's also a fraction of the cost of other ECU's :)

Andy

[Boyes]

Below is the rr print out from my race car engine.
42mm Jenvey bodies, forged pistons and rods, cat cams 803, modified head with standard size valves, supersprint manifold with pugsport exhaust. Running clio 172/182 injectors.

Nick

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c290/Nick_206_180/106%20GTI/106GTI.jpg

I'm sorry if it's just me but 55hp loss from fly to wheels? Isn't that quite alot? I thought it was usually 30-40ish?

[Quik_Pug]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v423/Quik_Pug/Pre-FCS%20Prep/f01ed23b.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v423/Quik_Pug/FCS%202008%20Part%202/1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v423/Quik_Pug/FCS%202008%20Part%202/2.jpg

KMS DTH Bodies + 90mm Trumpets
KMS Standalone + Wideband Controller/Display
708 Catcams
Approx 165-170@Fly (135-140@wheels)

Its worth it just for the noise :evil:

[Ryan]

Below is the rr print out from my race car engine.
42mm Jenvey bodies, forged pistons and rods, cat cams 803, modified head with standard size valves, supersprint manifold with pugsport exhaust. Running clio 172/182 injectors.

Nick

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c290/Nick_206_180/106%20GTI/106GTI.jpg

ah you have the same drop early in the rev range as mine does on the 803s.

I allways suspected that with a bit more fine tuning my spec was capable of getting near 200bhp

[Nick_C]

I'm sorry if it's just me but 55hp loss from fly to wheels? Isn't that quite alot? I thought it was usually 30-40ish?

Divide the loss by 2 (due to 2 roller design) and minus that from fly to get wheel figure.

Nick