decat, or centre section with mid silencer for my 1.1i 98

[Prickle]

ok while ive been reading a few threads over the past days, and reading about back pressure. I know it wont make a massive effect on my my 1.1i lol, i just wondering what would be best, not really sure about the decat, purely down to the noise, but im wondering is the centre section with mid silencer is it too loud etc p.s sorry if that didnt make any sense :oops:

1. would it be best to get a decat ?? (supersprint make) link below
http://www.kamracing.co.uk/manufacturers-543/supersprint-610/supersprint-centre-pipes-617/supersprint-cat-back-centre-pipe-saxo-74.html


2. centre section with mid silencer (supersprint make) link below

http://www.kamracing.co.uk/manufacturers-543/supersprint-610/supersprint-centre-pipes-617/supersprint-centre-pipe-with-mid-silencer-saxo-122.html

thanks:), im just getting information so i can get one in the new year :p

p.s do not post if its going to say search, ive seen decat threads but only one or two for the 1.1i okay!

[Ben]

De cat, and just get rid of the silencer mate. Get a straight through.

[Prickle]

De cat, and just get rid of the silencer mate. Get a straight through.

Wont it be really loud though ??

I dont think my ss backbox sounds at its full potential (due to the ye olde cat, original too), so either a decat or the mid silencer should make the exhaust better. I mean the other night my cat ting'd quite loud because it popped, i thought this isnt going to be too healthy for the cat lol, thats why im looking to replace it sometime next year.

[Ben]

Nah mines not loud, i've heard a hell of a lot louder than mine and thats what i'm runnin. I bought a Sportex Racing Tube. 49 quid. Just takes out the middle section includin the silencer, perfect fit tbh. Gives it that extra rasp, mine pops bangs quite a lot now too lol.

EDIT: Just looked at the links and the first one looks exactly like what i bought, its not a de cat btw. Its from the cat to the backbox i.e middle section.

[Prickle]

Nah mines not loud, i've heard a hell of a lot louder than mine and thats what i'm runnin. I bought a Sportex Racing Tube. 49 quid. Just takes out the middle section includin the silencer, perfect fit tbh. Gives it that extra rasp, mine pops bangs quite a lot now too lol.

What backbox have you got like ?? and thats quite cheap too for that racing tube!

When it popped the other day i thought it had shot a hole through the cat lol :zainy: id rather it not do that tbh

EDIT: ok thanks i just looked at your edited post :)

[Ben]

I've got a Sportex one buddy.
Piccy http://i298.photobucket.com/albums/mm249/bensambrook/DSC00481.jpg
Cost me 89 quid, the racing tube was 49 and my decat was about 40 i think. So i've basically got a cheap ass exhaust system but i really like it.
Quick video of sound goin through a tunnel ;)
http://i298.photobucket.com/albums/mm249/bensambrook/th_MOV00109.jpg (http://s298.photobucket.com/albums/mm249/bensambrook/?action=view&current=MOV00109.flv)

[Prickle]

thats not bad (price wise) upload your video :)


EDIT: can anybody clue me up with the back pressure lark please ?? :)

[Sophia_Bush]

minty Ive got a janspeed decat box and silenced mide section I can sell you, the decat is changeable with oe cat so no hassle every year for mot. Will keep it quiet enough to, heard the supersprint backbox wake the dead anyway lol

[Prickle]

minty Ive got a janspeed decat box and silenced mide section I can sell you, the decat is changeable with oe cat so no hassle every year for mot. Will keep it quiet enough to, heard the supersprint backbox wake the dead anyway lol

Well i havent got any money yet lol, my supersprint backbox doesnt wake up the dead lol, 2" ftw

[AlexB]

my 1.1 was pretty good for sound decat straight through
87db when tested at donnington (so not hugely loud)

on the 2" box itll be quite nice imo

[Steve]

would really think about performance with a 1.1 just get the de cat straight through pipe.
Or just the straight through pipe.

No point paying extra for the one with a silencer in on a 1.1 imo

[DawsonWicked]

I have no silencer or cat on my magnex system is just a straight through pipe from the manifold back and i have deffinatly noticed a difference in performance it just feels more responsive.

http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee277/DawsonWicked/th_MOV02795.jpg (http://s228.photobucket.com/albums/ee277/DawsonWicked/?action=view&current=MOV02795.flv)

And its not stupidly loud and sounds pretty nice.

De cat it !! you know you wanna !

[Prickle]

my 1.1 was pretty good for sound decat straight through
87db when tested at donnington (so not hugely loud)

on the 2" box itll be quite nice imo

would really think about performance with a 1.1 just get the de cat straight through pipe.
Or just the straight through pipe.

No point paying extra for the one with a silencer in on a 1.1 imo

Steve_vts; I know there i wont get any performance gains on my 1.1i, may sound silly but sine ive put my ss backbox on its been a tad quicker to 60mph but my cat is old and im sure it blows from the front a bit, so im looking for a replacement next year :)

Alex_vts; do you have any videos of your 1.1i decatted ?? if not no worries :p

[AlexB]

i dont unfortunatly no mate

[Prickle]

No worries lol :)

Another thing is the smell, how long (a rough guess) till it wears off ?? plus police

[Ben]

No worries lol :)

Another thing is the smell, how long (a rough guess) till it wears off ?? plus police

What smell? :panic: lol

[Prickle]

What smell? :panic: lol

With having no cat :geek: lol

[AlexB]

there is no smell when you remove the cat

[Ben]

Just smells of petrol a tiny bit more.

[Prickle]

Ah ok, my mates old vtr stunk thats all when he decatted his car, the petrol smell doesnt bother me lol

[David]

Just smells of petrol a tiny bit more.

Couldnt smell any difference at all with my decat.

[Ben]

Couldnt smell any difference at all with my decat.

Lol my car is dodgey then haha

[AlexB]

the only smell i got was heatwrap

[Prickle]

the only smell i got was heatwrap

Ah well i just have the standard crap manifold lol, so that wont be a issue, its police checks and stuff im more worried about tbh, fines :panic:

[AlexB]

i have the whole system wrapped right to the backbox

police checked my car and never noticed the de cat lol

[DawsonWicked]

i have the whole system wrapped right to the backbox

police checked my car and never noticed the de cat lol

hmmm iv always been worried bout the popo doin a check on my car.

And my car totally stinks without a cat ! It puffs out black smoke every so often aswell.

[Prickle]

i have the whole system wrapped right to the backbox

police checked my car and never noticed the de cat lol

oh you can get the whole system wrapped, i just thought the maniold was necasary :oops:

[Ben]

hmmm iv always been worried bout the popo doin a check on my car.

And my car totally stinks without a cat ! It puffs out black smoke every so often aswell.

What does yours smell of? Please say petrol so i'm not on my own lol.

[AlexB]

hmmm iv always been worried bout the popo doin a check on my car.

And my car totally stinks without a cat ! It puffs out black smoke every so often aswell.

black smoke tends to be bad

oh you can get the whole system wrapped, i just thought the maniold was necasary :oops:

i wrapped it myself
did it as i have no heatsheilds under the car

[Prickle]

i wrapped it myself
did it as i have no heatsheilds under the car

Oh well il look into this in the new year :) heat wrapped exhaust ftw

[AlexB]

its not really nessecry tbh

[Prickle]

its not really nessecry tbh

I was thinking that also, but it would prevent wear and tear on it wouldnt it (weathering) ?? besides keep heat down

[AlexB]

well on a mild steal system it can make it get too hot and cause it to crack by the welds
plus itll hold water and may actually cause rusting faster

[DawsonWicked]

What does yours smell of? Please say petrol so i'm not on my own lol.

yep a very very stong smell of un burnt petrol lol

and what would black smoke from the exhaust indicate ?

[Prickle]

yep a very very stong smell of un burnt petrol lol

and what would black smoke from the exhaust indicate ?

burning oil ??

[Ben]

yep a very very stong smell of un burnt petrol lol

Ahhh mines not very bad, just a little whiff of it sometimes.

burning oil ??
Thats blue smoke :)

[David]

surely if it was mild steel then the wrap would hold water and make it rust quicker?

[AlexB]

burning oil ??

thats if the smoke has a blue tinge to it

i would say your cars overfueling

[DawsonWicked]

burning oil ??

burning oil would be white smoke, and i know for a fact it isnt burning oil lol as i havnt lost any in about 3 mounth.

[Prickle]

Thats blue smoke :)

Ah ok, well i thought that :oops:

[AlexB]

surely if it was mild steel then the wrap would hold water and make it rust quicker?

did say that yea

[DawsonWicked]

thats if the smoke has a blue tinge to it

i would say your cars overfueling

ohh i already know that lol, my injectors are pooped, iv ordered a new set and ill be fitting them asap, as said when i boot it i get a tiny little puff off black smoke off the back

[Prickle]

ohh i already know that lol, my injectors are pooped, iv ordered a new set and ill be fitting them asap, as said when i boot it i get a tiny little puff off black smoke off the back

At least its getting sorted :)

So if i was to get a Stainless Steel centre section and heat wrap it, what do you reckon ??

[David]

did say that yea

ahh i see it now:)

[AlexB]

lol :P

tbh its all fun
carries the heat to the backbox and i think its causes larger flames lol
i love it

[Prickle]

lol :P

tbh its all fun
carries the heat to the backbox and i think its causes larger flames lol
i love it

ok, are you being serious ?? :p

[AlexB]

ok, are you being serious ?? :p

i have a cammed vts btw
1.1 i dout will flame without a manifold ect

[Prickle]

i have a cammed vts btw
1.1 i dout will flame without a manifold ect

Ok lol :)

[DawsonWicked]

i have a cammed vts btw
1.1 i dout will flame without a manifold ect

surely my vtr when i fit the manifold with a staight though centre section all heat wrapped and running rich will pop some flamage ?

[AlexB]

maybe a little pop
most fully breathed cars will get a little pop

mine gives around an 18 inch purple flame lol

[DawsonWicked]

maybe a little pop
most fully breathed cars will get a little pop

mine gives around an 18 inch purple flame lol

what the duece ! thats sweet lol ;) i dont want ownt 2 extreme i just wanna see a little pop !

*orders another lengh of heat wrap*

[AlexB]

i dunno if it does cause the flames being bigger but ive not seen anything that size from a similar spec car

its funny as fuck tbh

[DawsonWicked]

i dunno if it does cause the flames being bigger but ive not seen anything that size from a similar spec car

its funny as fuck tbh

lol i saw a old mk1 golf put a small flame out the back and it looked sweet and that old golf inspired me ! lol

[AlexB]

well mine popped a bit whilst driving
but when sat revving (to see if it flames) was when it spat the big ones

theres a vid somewere with no exhaust (just the manifold) and its hat size it spat out with the system

[Prickle]

well mine popped a bit whilst driving
but when sat revving (to see if it flames) was when it spat the big ones

theres a vid somewere with no exhaust (just the manifold) and its hat size it spat out with the system

i seen that video lol :D

it was quality :)

[AlexB]

yea lol
proper funny

[Ben]

Linkage to video anyone? Sounds meaty ;)

[Prickle]

Linkage to video anyone? Sounds meaty ;)

Im guessing Alex is searching lol :)

[AlexB]

i can if you want lol

[AlexB]

http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s312/awrigh/th_MOV00127.jpg (http://s155.photobucket.com/albums/s312/awrigh/?action=view&current=MOV00127.flv)

http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s312/awrigh/th_MOV00129.jpg (http://s155.photobucket.com/albums/s312/awrigh/?action=view&current=MOV00129.flv)

never saw em out the backbox myself but mates say thats the same size

[Sophia_Bush]

I think for mine I may have to go for a poosport again, dont think the janspeed will be that good plus I dont think a supersprint race centre with oe backbox willg o to well either

[Prickle]

Any 1.1i owners with decats ??

[AlexB]

i had 1 :P

[Prickle]

i had 1 :P

Ok Alex :p what was it like driving in general, was it loud ?? i just want to find out peoples opinions before i decide to do it, it took me ages to decide on my ss backbox :D

[AlexB]

picked up a little better but nothing hugely noticeable tbh
sounded good and wasnt too loud (even fully stripped out)
plus i had a bigger backboxso would add volume

i rekon youll be quite happy with it mate
its only on stuff like piper and ashley systems where its stupidly loud

[Prickle]

picked up a little better but nothing hugely noticeable tbh
sounded good and wasnt too loud (even fully stripped out)
plus i had a bigger backboxso would add volume

i rekon youll be quite happy with it mate
its only on stuff like piper and ashley systems where its stupidly loud

Thanks :)

Il get that sorted in january hopfully when i have the dosh

[Slammed_Posi_Vtr]

Just do it, they are pennies and its a seriously basic mod that works, you will notice a small difference. Dont worry so much, live a little.

or save your money and get a decent car.

[AlexB]

why do guys nock 1.1s
you go buy something better than a saxo

[Prickle]

Just do it, they are pennies and its a seriously basic mod that works, you will notice a small difference. Dont worry so much, live a little.

or save your money and get a decent car.

I always take ages deciding stuff like this :panic: i just want it to be correct pipe choice that all. Its like my exhaust, i didnt want a jap backbox because the noise didnt appeal to me, than after asking about the ss backbox and seen people reviews i thought yep, il have that (Great choice by me) just the centre section to sort out.

What about M.O.T time, will they still mot it, with a decat ?? or will they say "Hmm you need a cat, £200" if you get me lol, its not till after the next summer i dont think, so it should of worn in buy than i suppose.

[AlexB]

I always take ages deciding stuff like this :panic: i just want it to be correct pipe choice that all. Its like my exhaust, i didnt want a jap backbox because the noise didnt appeal to me, than after asking about the ss backbox and seen people reviews i thought yep, il have that (Great choice by me) just the centre section to sort out.

What about M.O.T time, will they still mot it, with a decat ??

will fail with a decat

[Prickle]

will fail with a decat

i no lol, that puts a dampers on it :( it takes ages to put the backbox perfect in the recess as it is, but i do want one.

[Slammed_Posi_Vtr]

why do guys nock 1.1s
you go buy something better than a saxo

not knocking 1.1's but to be fair performance mods are a bit of a waste of time when 95% of people just have them for a year or less. and selling it? impossible. and you look like a dick ragging a 1.1

[AlexB]

just swap back to the cat for mots
thats what most guys do

[AlexB]

not knocking 1.1's but to be fair performance mods are a bit of a waste of time when 95% of people just have them for a year or less. and selling it? impossible. and you look like a dick ragging a 1.1

hes not after performance
and tbh you look like a knob ragging any saxo round town centres lol

[Prickle]

not knocking 1.1's but to be fair performance mods are a bit of a waste of time when 95% of people just have them for a year or less. and selling it? impossible. and you look like a dick ragging a 1.1

just swap back to the cat for mots
thats what most guys do

Alex; looks like il just have to do that lol :zainy:

Slammed; tbh in any car you can look like a dick ragging it

Edit: Alex Just seen your post above, exactly im not after performance, i dont take my car on the track, tbf i dont want a argument about it.

[Slammed_Posi_Vtr]

hes not after performance
and tbh you look like a knob ragging any saxo round town centres lol

well theres no point getting one then

correct, or anything bar a lambo

EDIT: The ting wont have done fuck all to the CAT,
and making the most of a 1.1 exhaust and not ragging it round town? hmmm

[AlexB]

well theres no point getting one then

correct, or anything bar a lambo

nice sound maybe
my 1.1 sounded ace

[Prickle]

nice sound maybe
my 1.1 sounded ace

I wish you had done a video lol :)

[AlexB]

lol i should have
i remember sam (piggy123) loved the noise of it
it was really raspy and popped and banged quite well :D
real funny pulling into college ect the motorsport lads expecting somthing mad n a 1.1 saxo rolls in with my smiling my tits off in it

[Prickle]

lol i should have
i remember sam (piggy123) loved the noise of it
it was really raspy and popped and banged quite well :D
real funny pulling into college ect the motorsport lads expecting somthing mad n a 1.1 saxo rolls in with my smiling my tits off in it

That would of been a right laff lol :) i bet it sounded lethal flooring it down a country road :p

[Slammed_Posi_Vtr]

Whatever floats your boat tbh, but remember drivers with loud exhausts and saxos just make people think 'prick', regardless of the model. but especially 1.1's.

Its just factual, im one of those drivers

[AlexB]

round the lanes was where it spent most of its time
hence i killed the brakes a few times fading them out (i drive rather hard)

was prolly my favorite car to drive handeling wise out of the cars ive owned

[Prickle]

Whatever floats your boat tbh, but remember drivers with loud exhausts and saxos just make people think 'prick', regardless of the model. but especially 1.1's.

Its just factual, im one of those drivers

My ss backbox isnt that loud to start with, so i doubt a decat will make it a headache.

[AlexB]

decat will add a bit of noise

but the 1.1 has no other boxes so it wont get much louder

[Prickle]

decat will add a bit of noise

but the 1.1 has no other boxes so it wont get much louder

My cat a month back started to rattle, so i took it off and these little balls came out lol, so it shouldnt be long and inside should be completly rotted, they should shoot out of the backbox (in theory) obviously the ss backbox is clean through :D so whola

[AlexB]

lol madness

[jamie8v]

full race system strait frew you only have to put your cat on once a year! decat john do it!