How much Bhp?

[vlatko_vts]

Hi guys I have 97 VTS-1.6-16V. As you know it's 120hp standard. My modifications are:
Supersprint Exhaust Manifold,
Pug Sport Group A 60mm exhaust system, with back box,
Wossner forged piston,
Light weight flywheel,
Custom made Throttile Bodie,
Newman Cams Ph3,
Head made on exhoust and inlet,
Re-maped ECU,
Custom made gerabox (little short then standard),
Pipercros Viper induction kit,

What do you think how much Bhp I have? And What do you think I need to do Next? :y:

[djrem]

Your only sure way is to arrange a Dyno test on a Rolling Road.
Check your Regional Meet sections for the next test day :)

[AlexB]

Check your Regional Meet sections for the next test day :)

look where hes from :S

as said though mate a rolling road is the best way to get a ballpark figure

[bullit]

custom bodies as in bike bodies? and run on existing ecu? how does it run? or you mean p+p throttle body

[williamsvts]

he may just be using a different single throttle body, like the clio 172 TB im fitting to mine.

[vlatko_vts]

custom bodies as in bike bodies? and run on existing ecu? how does it run? or you mean p+p throttle body

Yes I'm using a different single throttle body, no throttile bodies from bike.

[vlatko_vts]

Your only sure way is to arrange a Dyno test on a Rolling Road.
Check your Regional Meet sections for the next test day :)

Yes that way is the best, but in Macedonia-Europe we don't have Dyno test :wall: and you now what? We have only 5-6 VTS in all country :wacko:

[Quick]

Next would be brakes & suspension with a side order of weight loss.

[djrem]

You could be running anywhere from 140bhp-180bhp depending on the setup and tuning.
A rolling road unfortunately is the only way to know for 100% :(

[JamesR]

i didnt see a decat mentioned in your list of modifications? if you havnt got one already that could be another step.

[vlatko_vts]

i didnt see a decat mentioned in your list of modifications? if you havnt got one already that could be another step.

Yes I got full exhaust system, What do you think how much Bhp?

[bullit]

woudnt the remap have told you?

i would say about 155-160

[vlatko_vts]

woudnt the remap have told you?

i would say about 155-160

No they told me that I should get around 11bhp. And what do you think, what to do on my next step to get more Bhp?

[bullit]

who told you lol?

also depends how good the map is.

next step would be headwork or bodies. this is where it gets expensive though. otherwise get some quality suspension and brakes. maybe a diff

[vlatko_vts]

who told you lol?

also depends how good the map is.

next step would be headwork or bodies. this is where it gets expensive though. otherwise get some quality suspension and brakes. maybe a diff

Yesss bodies, but I'm afraid whether they will working well, becouse in Macedonia we DON'T have people who know how to re-map the car, so that is my biggest problem. :wall::wall::wall:

[bullit]

youll have to plan to drive over for a holiday here and get your car done lol.

bodies will be a lot of money though for not much power gains on their own. but thats NA tuning

[vlatko_vts]

youll have to plan to drive over for a holiday here and get your car done lol.

bodies will be a lot of money though for not much power gains on their own. but thats NA tuning

Yes thats NA tuning. Sometimes I think to go with Turbo, but should start from the beginning. And that is a lot of money and a lot of work. I probably forgot to notes that I have a Nitrous. ;) but I use it only when I have a close fight on the streets :p

[bullit]

lol or just buy a car already done ;)

[vlatko_vts]

No, that is not good feeling, do it by your self, that is a good feeling

[Zephyr]

i´d say about 150 but with a very high power range...why don´t you buy a camshaft, instead of the 60 exhaust? take a 50exhaust of SS!
with camshafts u´ll have more power at better rpm and not only in the last 2000! :)

[vlatko_vts]

i´d say about 150 but with a very high power range...why don´t you buy a camshaft, instead of the 60 exhaust? take a 50exhaust of SS!
with camshafts u´ll have more power at better rpm and not only in the last 2000! :)

I have camshafts newman Ph3, and I have SS racing exhoust 50cm but is not installed. Do you think that I will have more power with SS? Thanks

[bullit]

i´d say about 150 but with a very high power range...why don´t you buy a camshaft, instead of the 60 exhaust? take a 50exhaust of SS!
with camshafts u´ll have more power at better rpm and not only in the last 2000! :)

did that make any sense to anyone else lol


ss is not gonna make noticeble difference.

so what you gonna decide vlatko

[Zephyr]

sorry if u can´t understand me...
it´s not making any difference if ss or not, but a 60 exhaust will keep the torque very high from 5000rpm to the end and before, the car will be a little dead...if u use it only on track, there will be no problem...but in a dayuse it could be also annoying...
with a 50exhaust the power will be better distributed on the range

[vlatko_vts]

sorry if u can´t understand me...
it´s not making any difference if ss or not, but a 60 exhaust will keep the torque very high from 5000rpm to the end and before, the car will be a little dead...if u use it only on track, there will be no problem...but in a dayuse it could be also annoying...
with a 50exhaust the power will be better distributed on the range

Do you like to say that car with SS 50cm exhoust will have better performance on high Rpm? And high speed?

[Zephyr]

no with 50mm ss it´s better than with a 60mm exhaust, with 60 u´d have better perfomance only on high rpm!
if u want to have more power also on lower rpm i´d go for the 50 or 52mm exhaust!

[Zephyr]

no with 50mm ss it´s better than with a 60mm exhaust, with 60 u´d have better perfomance only on high rpm!
if u want to have more power also on lower rpm i´d go for the 50 or 52mm exhaust!

[vlatko_vts]

no with 50mm ss it´s better than with a 60mm exhaust, with 60 u´d have better perfomance only on high rpm!
if u want to have more power also on lower rpm i´d go for the 50 or 52mm exhaust!

Ooo yes I understand, but I like to get more power on high Rpm. Becouse when I race drag I gon't need power on low Rpm. But I should try with SS. :drink: Thanks mate

[Zephyr]

if you race and use the power only there than I would tell u to put the 60 exhaustt, but I think the 50 if u have it alrady at home it´s worth a shot! :)

[vlatko_vts]

Does smoeone know of what car can be fitted biger injectors on my VTS? Thanks

[vlatko_vts]

Some guy bought the dyno machine in Macedonia. I visited him to see how mush BHP I have. And with good timming on my cams I got 159.6BHP and 167NM. I think that is good BHP for this mods. What do you think?