View Full Version : What needs uprating if to run nitrous safely?
VTSTomE
24th February 2009, 01:10
Been thinking about nitrous as its perfect to get better quarter times but it can still be a daily drive running approx 150 without the nitrous. But can it be run so not to shred engines with like a 50 bhp shot? Would forged internals be needed?
wallace570
24th February 2009, 01:42
wet or dry shot?
VTSTomE
24th February 2009, 01:47
Which evers most efficient i guess?!
tweeqd
24th February 2009, 07:59
stay away from dry kits as there trouble
a wizard of nos wet kit is the best one, all you need to do is get a colder set of plugs.
i wouldnt go more than 50bhp on a single jet without a controler
there is also a kit in the for sale section
JamesR
24th February 2009, 08:30
I have heard bad stories about nitrous going wrong, whats the correct way to actually use it? what RPM etc.
andrew0510
24th February 2009, 09:28
Suggest you read up for a bit of training mate,
Can be dangerous if used wrong..
Peejous
24th February 2009, 09:31
You never had me - you never had your car... Granny shiftin' not double clutchin' like you should. You're lucky that hundred shot of NOS didn't blow the welds on the intake! You almost had me?
Now, me and the mad scientist got to rip apart the block... and replace the piston rings you fried.
Ask any racer. Any real racer. It don't matter if you win by an inch or a mile. Winning's winning.
Prickle
24th February 2009, 09:59
You never had me - you never had your car... Granny shiftin' not double clutchin' like you should. You're lucky that hundred shot of NOS didn't blow the welds on the intake! You almost had me?
Now, me and the mad scientist got to rip apart the block... and replace the piston rings you fried.
Ask any racer. Any real racer. It don't matter if you win by an inch or a mile. Winning's winning.
Copied and pasted, or remembed it of the top of your head. ? :P
Peejous
24th February 2009, 10:01
imdb.com
JamesR
24th February 2009, 13:19
You never had me - you never had your car... Granny shiftin' not double clutchin' like you should. You're lucky that hundred shot of NOS didn't blow the welds on the intake! You almost had me?
Now, me and the mad scientist got to rip apart the block... and replace the piston rings you fried.
Ask any racer. Any real racer. It don't matter if you win by an inch or a mile. Winning's winning.
lmfao doesnt he say "hunky" shot of nos? lool
Karl
24th February 2009, 13:32
is there much point in it?
in the sense it's alot of money to blow on something that'll save .5 a second on a 1/4 mile...
even then you say you managed that time with NO2.
bark
24th February 2009, 13:34
Nope 100 ..
JamesR
24th February 2009, 13:42
you can get kits that add upto 300bhp cant you? too dangerous IMO 75-100bhp is the maximum i would go if i had Nitrous Oxide.
wicked-vtr
24th February 2009, 14:05
when they fitted the jag on top gear with nos it gave a 500 bhp boost, think you could only have the system active for like 2 seconds at a time or it would blow your engine
williamsvts
24th February 2009, 14:07
is there much point in it?
in the sense it's alot of money to blow on something that'll save .5 a second on a 1/4 mile...
even then you say you managed that time with NO2.
take more than 0.5 secs off, i've seen vts' standard apart from nos running in the 13s.
nassso
24th February 2009, 14:14
If you want 150+ shot i suggest you double metal gaskets to decrease compression ratio, colder plugs, progressive controller, uprated clutch.
andywiddss1
24th February 2009, 14:18
take more than 0.5 secs off, i've seen vts' standard apart from nos running in the 13s.
very true mate a 50 shot of nos will get u in the 13s seen it done at york
williamsvts
24th February 2009, 14:20
that lad with the silver 1? i think he was running mid 13s.
andywiddss1
24th February 2009, 14:24
that lad with the silver 1? i think he was running mid 13s.
yes mate silver one i was very tempted to go down the nos road if i ever go back to a vts ,im sure i will go down the fully stripped and nos road :oops:
williamsvts
24th February 2009, 14:28
haha, infact, thats what ive been thinking for the end of this year.
andywiddss1
24th February 2009, 14:37
haha, infact, thats what ive been thinking for the end of this year.
u know how fast my vts ran at york best time was 14.5 at 94mph and that was on 14inch wheels and standard brakes with toyo r888 tyres and as much as it pains me to say it that was the fastest it ever ran even cammed and a 106 rallye box it was no faster on the 1/4 mile ,same goes for rickyp we never got any faster no matter what we did , there fore the next step up would have to be nos :oops: but i sold it like a cock ha ha
williamsvts
24th February 2009, 14:45
lool, yeah, they are good little cars imo.
JamesR
24th February 2009, 15:16
isnt nitrous oxide illegal to be used on teh road? you can have it cant you but not use it?
andywiddss1
24th February 2009, 15:21
isnt nitrous oxide illegal to be used on teh road? you can have it cant you but not use it?
Having a nitrous oxide system installed in your car is not illegal. Akamoto provide these kits to our customers for the use of off road events and shows that are hosted on private land. However Injecting nitrous oxide into your engine in whilst driving on a public road can not really be commented on as we can not find any law against this but at the same time we cant find one that permits it. So we recommend keeping the bottle turned off until you’re in a suitable surrounding to inject nitrous oxide, e.g. drag strip.
tweeqd
24th February 2009, 16:21
the only 2 dangers when useing nitrous are
1 someone fitting it who doesnt know what there doing
2 someone useing it it incorrectly and useing jets that are to big
it is perfectly legal to use on the road aslong as you are coverd by your insurance, adrian flux cover it for road use
on a single jet kit without a controler i wouldnt go more than 50bhp
i have 200bhp jets in my turbo vtr but that is direct port and controled
JamesR
24th February 2009, 16:25
what RPM do you use it at? say if i am idling at 1000rpm or so, then as i accelerate off the line using it is that OK?
tweeqd
24th February 2009, 20:32
if the kit is set up properly then it will only work with full throttle
RPM will vary and you can use the second button to turn it on at any RPM its a matter of testing to see when you have grip for it
i couldnt use it untill i was past 4k in at least 2nd in my ZX 16v or it would just spin the wheels
andywiddss1
24th February 2009, 20:53
what times did u run mate in zx16v with nos
tweeqd
24th February 2009, 22:16
never timed it but made a hell of a difference with a 50 bhp jet
im currently putting a kit on my spare 16v lump in the ax untill i get my new turbo 8v lump built up and will be timeing that at the pod this year
richt247
24th February 2009, 22:23
if any of you have seen the high octane movies they put nitrous on a old skyline and keep upping the nos until the engine blows....
quite funny you might find it on youtube.
peebee
24th February 2009, 22:32
You can run a 50 shot of nos without uprating ur internals easy mate! Save your money!
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