the cost of bhp?

[seany2hxrny]

hey guys, ive got £400 quid spare after buying my vtr and woundered how much bhp i could get with it? if anyone knows could you let me know id be very grateful :y:

[gouldy87]

probably get a decent cat back exhaust and a de cat for that amount?

[JamesR]

> Sportex cat back £130
> Sportex manifold £150
> Port and polish TB ( free if you do it yourself ) or around £25
> Simota induction £115
> decat - Not sure on prices


May add upto 15bhp if your lucky. Above will cost slightly over £400 though.

[seany2hxrny]

ok cheers mate

[JamesR]

Just out of interest is your VTR a mk2 or a mk1?

Also if you can shed some weight your car it will be a lot faster aswell. :y:

Spare tyre, back seats, rear carpets, parcel shelf etc

[seany2hxrny]

mk2 mate think i got a good deal with it to be honest ive had a 1.1 desire for the past 3 years and i didn wana waste money doing that up cos it was slow lol now i got a vtr i can spend abit and try and get some more power out of it

[JamesR]

Yeah well what i posted above will gain you some. Then cams and a remap will cost around £800 ish and could add another 20bhp ish depending on a lot of factors though. Or for the same price you could get a VTS engine and drop that in :y:

[Sparco_Tom]

400quid will probably see you 5-10 bhp max

[JamesR]

Tom i think what i originally posted could possibly see over 10bhp?

[seany2hxrny]

what should i be looking for and for how much then if i had a garage fit the exhaust etc? but if anyone wants to give me a hand doing it i wouldnt compain?

[Sparco_Tom]

exhaust 2-3, manifold 5ish, throttle body nout, air filter 2bhp

making a rough total of 10

[Sparco_Tom]

depending where your based i could give you a hand

[gixxa]

if you a prepared to wait for bargains, you could probably get full exhaust, mani, induction and half decent suspension set up for £400.

[JamesR]

exhaust 2-3, manifold 5ish, throttle body nout, air filter 2bhp

making a rough total of 10

and the decat will give a good 2-4bhp?

[seany2hxrny]

im in cardiff buddy its ok ill shop around maybe see whats in the scrappys

[seany2hxrny]

how about this manifold i found on ebay = MANIFOLD JANSPEED EXHAUST EM580 its for 150 quid any good?

[JamesR]

link didnt work mate.

[seany2hxrny]

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/SAXO-VTR-MANIFOLD-JANSPEED-EXHAUST-EM580_W0QQitemZ330302828112QQcmdZViewItem

[Matty-VTR]

If you dont mind swapping engines, you could get a VTS lump in there fitted for £400ish?

[JamesR]

Yeah its a good manifold, get the same one for the same price of KAM RACING, :y:

google it.

[JamesR]

If you dont mind swapping engines, you could get a VTS lump in there fitted for £400ish?

I dont think you can mate...

[seany2hxrny]

how hard a job to change manifold then? would a garage do it cheap?

[JamesR]

Not that hard mate, but if you havnt done it before then it can be hard. And a garage wouldnt charge too much i shouldnt think.

[Hopey121]

how about this manifold i found on ebay = MANIFOLD JANSPEED EXHAUST EM580 its for 150 quid any good?

you should get a stainless steel one mate they look better and dont rust, there better in the long run.

[JamesR]

you should get a stainless steel one mate they look better and dont rust, there better in the long run.

Doesnt matter because the one off Kam Racing comes with a anti rust coating.

[seany2hxrny]

because its a mk2 what do i have to change around the oil filter?

[pjm300]

could get a vts engine chucked in for not much more

or sell it and get a vts

[Matty-VTR]

I dont think you can mate...

Why not? Can get an engine for £200, someone on here does the conversion for £200 iirc?

[JamesR]

Why not? Can get an engine for £200, someone on here does the conversion for £200 iirc?

If it was as simple as just getting an engine and fitting it.

You will need the loom aswell, and other bits and pieces. You would be lucky to get a good conditioned low milelage one for £200, you would be lucky if the total cost came to less than £600

And it doesnt always go without problems.

[Matty-VTR]

If it was as simple as just getting an engine and fitting it.

You will need the loom aswell, and other bits and pieces. You would be lucky to get a good conditioned low milelage one for £200, you would be lucky if the total cost came to less than £600

And it doesnt always go without problems.

Doesnt have to be low milage one lol and i have seen engines circa £200 with loom and ecu etc, and i have seen people offer to fit engines for around the £200 mark

There you go £400...ish

[JamesR]

Go and ask people who have had an S conversion. And ask them how much they payed, not many will be £400.

[seany2hxrny]

yo mate im going to get this exhaust system http://www.potn.co.uk/p1402339.htm
and hopefully a 4-2-1 manifold, that would add a few bhp correct?

[JamesR]

yo mate im going to get this exhaust system http://www.potn.co.uk/p1402339.htm
and hopefully a 4-2-1 manifold, that would add a few bhp correct?

Yeah mate, you could gain maybe 5bhp :y:

and it will look/sound a lot better :y:

have a look into sportex exhausts mate. I highly reccomend them. :y:

[stingray1987]

yo mate im going to get this exhaust system http://www.potn.co.uk/p1402339.htm
and hopefully a 4-2-1 manifold, that would add a few bhp correct?

if your after bhp cheap then i wouldnt bother with that exhaust to be hounest as you can get a supersprint straight through centre section for £60 and will add about the same bhp as that exhaust will.
http://www.kamracing.co.uk/manufacturers-543/supersprint-610/supersprint-centre-pipes-617/supersprint-centre-pipe-citroen-saxo-vtr-1820.html

also don't spend loads of money on an induction kit when you can just buy a panel filter which will add about the same but only cost £40.
http://www.kamracing.co.uk/kam-racing-exclusive-discounts-315/sale-deals-709/green-panel-filter-citroen-saxo-1-6-8v-153.html

if your vtr is a 2001+ i would nt bother with a manifold as when i fitted my raceland yeah it was better top end but it seemd to loose the low rev power and the revs didnt raise as quickly.

if i was you i would get them 2 items for £100 then i would get the suspension sorted a decent set like this will cost just under £200
http://www.kamracing.co.uk/club-discounts-63/saxperience-64/apex-sports-supension-kit-50mm-lowering-citroen-saxo-1810.html
very good set as i had them on my saxo.

so far you have spent £300 so the other £100 to get the suspension fitted and torsion bar lowerd and away you go :D

if you can fit the suspension yourself sort out your brakes with the other £100 and you will have a nippy vtr that can handle well and stop well which is alot better on the road than a slightly higher bhp saxo with standard brakes and suspension.

http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/9353/saxolist.th.jpg (http://img228.imageshack.us/my.php?image=saxolist.jpg)

[waites]

strip it.. makes alot of difference.. then buy a 4-2-1 manifold and decat with full system.. dnt worry about getting induction kit jus buy a green air filter from kamracing about £40 includin p+p.. does same job if not beta and cheaper :)

[waites]

also have your flywheel balanced and lightend.. can feel the difference!

[JamesR]

also have your flywheel balanced and lightend.. can feel the difference!


Is quite expenisve isnt it? for basically no gain?

It will just Rev up faster.

If you know somewhere that will do it for cheap then let me know :y: