2.0 ltr

[heighton-123]

does any know of any easy 2 ltr conversions for a saxo vtr iv being told the peogeot 206 gti engine will fit quite well is this true or not does any know

[KamRacing]

Hiya there are no easy 2litre conversion

[JamesR]

No mate no 2.0 litre conversions are easy.

[Jim-Bob]

Best option is either buy a 206 gti or Fiesta ST if u want a 2 litre, or if its just more power swap the VTR for a VTS.

EDIT: or do a VTS conversion on your VTR, probably the most cost effective of them all, then mod the VTS engine.

James

[PETE-VTR]

or the audi TT conversion............

[KamRacing]

or a 1785cc stroker kit!

[Jim-Bob]

or a 1785cc stroker kit!

How much is a stroker kit?

What does it include? What Work needs doing to make it fit?

James

[williamsvts]

different crank and rods, not sure if pistons are different?
if its the stroker kit your on about?
could prob get a higher CC if you use a stroker kit + rebore.

[KamRacing]

retail cost is around £2000 + vat off the top of my head.
80mm bore and 89mm stroke.
You will need to grind a bit of the block as the crank will catch the block slightly.

[Sparco_Tom]

£2000 seems abit steep i know thats what they have been selling for but i would rather spend that £2k elsewhere

[666]

£2000 seems abit steep i know thats what they have been selling for but i would rather spend that £2k elsewhere

true that:y:

[Sparco_Tom]

lets face it aswell you will have probably spent £3000 on your engine by the time you even think about a stroker kit then you need to think would another £3000 be worth it after purchasing and mapping

[Jim-Bob]

2 grand would get you a decent turbo set up wouldn't it?

And you would see bigger gains off a turbo than a stroker wouldn't you?

James

[Sparco_Tom]

2grand would get you A turbo set up

[gouldy87]

2 grand would get you a decent turbo set up wouldn't it?

And you would see bigger gains off a turbo than a stroker wouldn't you?

James

no. if i had 2k it would be some throtttle bodies and a mapping session imo:y:

[Jim-Bob]

no. if i had 2k it would be some throtttle bodies and a mapping session imo:y:

Oh ok couldn't remember prices but i thought i'd seen a stage 2 turbo package on cituning for 2 grand, not that i have the money to do any of this, just trying to give some alternatives to 2 litre engines.

James

[gouldy87]

Oh ok couldn't remember prices but i thought i'd seen a stage 2 turbo package on cituning for 2 grand, not that i have the money to do any of this, just trying to give some alternatives to 2 litre engines.

James

its labour costs of getting it all up and running right and then there is the reliability factor. hence why if it was me i would go for bodies, headwork very lumpy cams and a live map. probs be looking at £2200 ish for that doing properly depending who does the work and where you get the bits from. oo id also go for some trumpet socks as it would be my daily still

[dannygti]

£2000 seems abit steep i know thats what they have been selling for but i would rather spend that £2k elsewhere

the stroker kit is not aimed at the regular saxp person imo.

a stroker kit could possibly the way forward for proper tuning.
if your building a high spec engine that revs high or uses F/I then rods and pistons will be needed anyway so the extra 1k will be good value for the extra power it will extract...

[AlexR]

I'm pretty sure it was k series stuff modded to fit in the stroker kit, so a keen modifier could probably do it quite cheap with access to a machine shop ;)

[Sparco_Tom]

obviously if i won the lottery or had 10k to throw at my engine then i would and it would be a supercharged 1800 vts

[dannygti]

obviously if i won the lottery or had 10k to throw at my engine then i would and it would be a supercharged 1800 vts

now were talking ;)

[dannygti]

I'm pretty sure it was k series stuff modded to fit in the stroker kit, so a keen modifier could probably do it quite cheap with access to a machine shop ;)

is this honda k-series?
i thought they were all forged items?

[Sparco_Tom]

i thought it was rover k series stuff they were adapting.

[AlexR]

It was rover k series stuff. Obviously one could acquire a used 1.8 ghey series engine and modify said items themselves.

The standard TU pistons would need to be used to keep the correct bore, or possibly even a slight overbore, then the k series rods would need modifying to fit the TU pistons, and the crank needed work too iirc. Although i get the feeling that some shorter TU rods may exist that you could use on a different crank, like a diesel crank & rods? Which one could modify...

[dannygti]

It was rover k series stuff. Obviously one could acquire a used 1.8 ghey series engine and modify said items themselves.

The standard TU pistons would need to be used to keep the correct bore, or possibly even a slight overbore, then the k series rods would need modifying to fit the TU pistons, and the crank needed work too iirc. Although i get the feeling that some shorter TU rods may exist that you could use on a different crank, like a diesel crank & rods? Which one could modify...

are you talking about a the stroker kit that QEP and dp engineering use or some home brew that someone has done??

if it is the case that this is how the QEP ones are made then it has put me right off... bu i cant see them selling stuff like that ^^^????

[AlexR]

I'm pretty certain the ones GMC etc were selling was k series parts machined to fit.

[dannygti]

I'm pretty certain the ones GMC etc were selling was k series parts machined to fit.

oh right, didnt know that.

i dont like the idea, not for 2k anyway.
it would work on a mild'ish engine but i cant see the k-series rods holding up at over 8k:panic:

[AlexR]

They will be aftermarket parts, and it was a pretty good bit of kit. The R500 engines seem to do alright, and they are making plenty of power at plenty of revs.

[dannygti]

They will be aftermarket parts, and it was a pretty good bit of kit. The R500 engines seem to do alright, and they are making plenty of power at plenty of revs.

oh i thought you meant standard rods not forged items..

yep the r500's have forged rods and pistons and rev to around 9400rpm.

[AlexR]

yeah for £2k i'd hope so lol

i just mean if someone was going boost with low revs(7kish) then i'd machine some standard k series stuff(off a VVC or whatever high end model) and shove them in for a lump more torque and not massive cost.

[Sparco_Tom]

haha cor you would hate to pay 2grand on some standard rover conrods and crank. ive got a mate who is a motorsport engineer with a 1.8vvc engine in his garage might see what he could mate for my old spare vtr engine

[yr51ocw]

I'm pretty sure it was k series stuff modded to fit in the stroker kit, so a keen modifier could probably do it quite cheap with access to a machine shop ;)

i cant see that happening, as the centre bores are different between the two engines.

[KamRacing]

the kit I was talking about is a proper custom kit, not a reground crank from another engine. It all depends on which route you want to take as to whether its good value for money. If you want to head into 200 bhp + territory with a n/a engine then this could be the way to go with it still being able to be driven on the road...

Proper engine mods are never cheap whatever route you take!
Kev

[mmmjames]

2.0 Litre Citroen Xzara engine conversion!!

thats my plan (: