bmc lookalike

[gjs]

whats the difference,except price:P
http://www.cbsonline.co.uk/remote-carbon-fibre-canister-air-filter--carbfil-861-p.asp

[tomgarrett]

the brand

[JamesR]

The name.

[gjs]

so its like gucci and primark:y:

[JamesR]

Its basically the same, just the materials used wont be as good quality.

[PETE-VTR]

only differences are. filter,material,name and price.

put a green filter inside like i have done and its much better. dosent matter to me if its made of carbon fibre or not people arent looking at it when im driving its under the bonnet.

id just like to mention that the roar mine made when i dint have cold air feed was immense

[JamesR]

only differences are. filter,material,name and price.

put a green filter inside like i have done and its much better. dosent matter to me if its made of carbon fibre or not people arent looking at it when im driving its under the bonnet.

id just like to mention that the roar mine made when i dint have cold air feed was immense

Cant beat an open pipercross for that :p

[PETE-VTR]

Cant beat an open pipercross for that :p

id rather have what iv got over a pipercross all day long:P

[ChrisRitchVTR]

what about the raceland jobby

[cj_99]

what about the raceland jobby

Im not a fan of the raceland tbh I cant see how getting air through that tiny hole in the slam panel makes any difference tbh. The one at the top of the page is probably better and its a hell of alot cheaper imo

[gjs]

can somebody post a pic or a link to a raceland kit please;)

[Ben]

http://www.cbsonline.co.uk/ekmps/shops/carbulder/images/carbfil_body.jpg

Looks spot on tbh, as a few people have said whack a better filter in there and it'll be just as good as a BMC tbh, but at least half the price.

[JamesR]

Might go down the halfrauds and have a better look at them :p

[cj_99]

can somebody post a pic or a link to a raceland kit please;)

Kam now sell a simota its the same as a raceland just different name :)

[cj_99]

Looks spot on tbh, as a few people have said whack a better filter in there and it'll be just as good as a BMC tbh, but at least half the price.

Does anyone have a pic or link of what filter would go in this? because obviously it wouldnt have a closed end on the filter would it? like the replacement element for the raceland or simota?

[cj_99]

oh it is like the green one just looked at the picys from the link my bad :D

[essexdon]

The only way of finding out is by doing dyno test against a true BMC. While I doubt there prob is much between them there also has to be some benefits over cheap filters or why would folk pay the extra money?

Be intresting to find out though.

[JamesR]

The only way of finding out is by doing dyno test against a true BMC. While I doubt there prob is much between them there also has to be some benefits over cheap filters or why would folk pay the extra money?

Be intresting to find out though.

They pay the extra for the name, and the advertisements saying things about gains. And they are better quality.

[cj_99]

Might go down the halfrauds and have a better look at them :p

http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_storeId_10001_catalogId_10151_productId_15 8958_langId_-1_categoryId_165660

Ripspeed jobby

[JamesR]

The silver hosing looks very thin, i saw some in halfrauds the other day, it was like tin foil.

[essexdon]

They pay the extra for the name, and the advertisements saying things about gains. And they are better quality.

Yea maybe, pretty sure the guys I know with half decent filters didnt paid for the name i certainly didnt. I bought it because it gave the best results i saw with my own eyes. Also where is the logic in spending money on mani, ecu or cams etc then to have a budget filter? Id just be sceptical about it.

[cj_99]

The silver hosing looks very thin, i saw some in halfrauds the other day, it was like tin foil.

Yeah i know well if i was anyone who bought one id chuck everything apart from the "carbon" housing and buy silicone piping instead its all still going to work out cheaper than a raceland/simota or bmc

[cj_99]

Yea maybe, pretty sure the guys I know with half decent filters didnt paid for the name i certainly didnt. I bought it because it gave the best results i saw with my own eyes. Also where is the logic in spending money on mani, ecu or cams etc then to have a budget filter? Id just be sceptical about it.

You say you saw it with your own eyes what did you see? dyno graphs?. If someone used the standard filter that came with it that would just be silly but just for the housing it would be ok even if it is £40 for abit of plastic

I have a friend that works at halfords so im going to see if he can get one on loan or something ;) to try it out

[JamesR]

Yeah i know well if i was anyone who bought one id chuck everything apart from the "carbon" housing and buy silicone piping instead its all still going to work out cheaper than a raceland/simota or bmc

Good idea :y:

Just get some SFS or Samco hosing.

[essexdon]

You say you saw it with your own eyes what did you see? dyno graphs?. If someone used the standard filter that came with it that would just be silly but just for the housing it would be ok even if it is £40 for abit of plastic

I have a friend that works at halfords so im going to see if he can get one on loan or something ;) to try it out

When having a new airfilter fitted to my old Mondeo ST24 i tried K+N panal filter, some other cant remember and the BMC. BMC gave the strongest results.

[tease1986]

yeah as when you buy a bcm you dont get any hosing or tubing much cheaper im going to get one like get tubing and green filter jobs a good one lol

[JamesR]

yeah as when you buy a bcm you dont get any hosing or tubing much cheaper im going to get one like get tubing and green filter jobs a good one lol

Cant really understand this :wacko:

[JamesR]

Just found a similar one on ebay -

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/UNIVERSAL-CARBON-FIBRE-INDUCTION-KIT-AIR-FILTER-HOSE_W0QQitemZ260364931681QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Ca rsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM?hash=item260364931681&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1689|66%3A2|65%3A12|39%3A1|240%3A13 18

[ChrisRitchVTR]

not cheaper than a raceland though
£45 in halfrauds with a shitty baco foil intake
plus costs of getting there and getting a half decent set of hoses
raceland from Mr_Willy is £49 delivered

speaks for its self really

[cj_99]

not cheaper than a raceland though
£45 in halfrauds with a shitty baco foil intake
plus costs of getting there and getting a half decent set of hoses
raceland from Mr_Willy is £49 delivered

speaks for its self really

meh i still think raceland is shit tbh plus is that with the green filter upgrade? otherwise its a piece of plop

[JamesR]

meh i still think raceland is shit tbh plus is that with the green filter upgrade? otherwise its a piece of plop

Agreen standard filters are shite.

Whats the biggest size filter your can fit in the racelend?

And is bigger better?

[RichM]

Agreen standard filters are shite.

Whats the biggest size filter your can fit in the racelend?

And is bigger better?

Why are Green filters shite?

Theres no point putting the biggest filter you can fit unless you got a really tuned engine.

[JamesR]

Why are Green filters shite?

Theres no point putting the biggest filter you can fit unless you got a really tuned engine.

Why?.....

[RichM]

Why?.....

Because heavily tuned engines will need a bigger air filter to draw more air than a non tuned engine.

Still haven't said why Green filters are shite...

[JamesR]

Because heavily tuned engines will need a bigger air filter to draw more air than a non tuned engine.

Still haven't said why Green filters are shite...

I didnt say green where, the standard ones that come wit the racelands of Mr Willy on here arnt green, there just no name.

And it doesnt matter the size of the filter, the engine is still going to draw the same ammount of air in.

[RichM]

You said "Agreen standard filters are shite." so wasn't very clear to understand.

Why would it say "The larger Green filter replaces the standard Simota filter to allow more airflow for heavily tuned engines" on Kam's website about the replacement airfilter.

http://www.kamracing.co.uk/manufacturers-543/simota-891/simota-aeroform-ii-893/simota-aeroform-ii-green-filter-citroen-saxo-vts-141.html

[JamesR]

You said "Agreen standard filters are shite." so wasn't very clear to understand.

Why would it say "The larger Green filter replaces the standard Simota filter to allow more airflow for heavily tuned engines" on Kam's website about the replacement airfilter.

http://www.kamracing.co.uk/manufacturers-543/simota-891/simota-aeroform-ii-893/simota-aeroform-ii-green-filter-citroen-saxo-vts-141.html

Me and cj99 where talkin about the Racelands, not the Simota's

[RichM]

Me and cj99 where talkin about the Racelands, not the Simota's

They're the same filters that come with the Racelands so doesn't make a difference.

[cj_99]

You said "Agreen standard filters are shite." so wasn't very clear to understand.

I think thats a spelling mistake mate, meant to say agreed :y:

[cj_99]

Have you actually seen the size difference between the standard raceland/simota air filter and the green one? there is minimal size differences its all about the filterisation of said filter. I do believe that kev (kamracing) made the decision to add the green filter because of the poor quality that the raceland/simota comes with. Plus it looks gay with the chrome bit on the end :P

[Steve]

http://www.cbsonline.co.uk/ekmps/shops/carbulder/images/carbfil_body.jpg

Looks spot on tbh, as a few people have said whack a better filter in there and it'll be just as good as a BMC tbh, but at least half the price.

ron has one, theres no difference.

IMO the filter element in the BMC is utter shite anyway.

[Elliott]

Id rather buy that and stick a filter inside it.
Alot cheaper!

[greenman]

Anyone got a link to the best filter you could put in the above carbon housing?

[greenman]

Another one here http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=350188723319