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moxy89
20th April 2009, 20:55
right looking at getting my car for track use, standard on the outside (ish) and silly engine mods. i am looking at group n engine mounts but i dont understand what they do..... postives and negatives ????
AndySAXO
20th April 2009, 21:07
they stiften up the engine, so there not as much engine movment,
so yes the are postive as they will stop the engine twisting, so you dont lose as much power and torque sure other people will add to this aswell but they are a postive thing to do for a track car,
andy
raunchz
20th April 2009, 21:11
I found them to make the engines power delivery more direct and responsive. The downside is the rattles.
Could always go with a powerflex lower for an intermediate mod - just cheaper.
KamRacing
20th April 2009, 21:17
Your engine does not twist.
They stop the engine moving about. This helps on acceleration by keeping the transmission in one place, helping traction from slow speeds; and deceleration by stopping additional weight transfer forward under braking and again traction.
The disadvantage is a bit more engine vibration.
don55
20th April 2009, 21:43
grp N mounts rock, period, get them.
its nice to see someone interested in real mods, not the "turbo" shit you see every day.
fuck the engine mods, and fuck the power in all honesty.
strip it, stiffen the engine mounts and the suspension bushes and you will have an amazing road/track car.
mattevts
20th April 2009, 21:51
wheres the best place to get group n mounts from the upper gear box one and do they do the ecu side one
don55
20th April 2009, 21:57
wheres the best place to get group n mounts from the upper gear box one and do they do the ecu side one
cant elp you with that really, but get them any where you can.
TU-Tuning
20th April 2009, 22:23
wheres the best place to get group n mounts from the upper gear box one and do they do the ecu side one
After a fair bit of shopping around I found the best place for them all was;
Gearbox Mount (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&item=320335732919)
Lower Mount (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&item=350177545143)
ECU Mount (http://www.spoox.co.uk/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=384)
Comes to Around £150. A set from one company will cost around £225 delivered
The Box one being a BakerBM, the lower mounts a Pugsport one, and the ECU one is a Vibratechnics. Cant vouch for them yet as Im literally half way through a conversion but theyre all extremely solid. Very happy with em. Cant wait to test out the results down the backroads
Mochachino
21st April 2009, 06:34
After a fair bit of shopping around I found the best place for them all was;
Gearbox Mount (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&item=320335732919)
Lower Mount (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&item=350177545143)
ECU Mount (http://www.spoox.co.uk/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=384)
Comes to Around £150. A set from one company will cost around £225 delivered
The Box one being a BakerBM, the lower mounts a Pugsport one, and the ECU one is a Vibratechnics. Cant vouch for them yet as Im literally half way through a conversion but theyre all extremely solid. Very happy with em. Cant wait to test out the results down the backroads
WOH spoox havnt been selling the ECU one for long then have they? Never seen it on there n i didnt look too long ago!
This the first mainstream GRP N ECU mount then?
raunchz
21st April 2009, 06:56
WOH spoox havnt been selling the ECU one for long then have they? Never seen it on there n i didnt look too long ago!
This the first mainstream GRP N ECU mount then?
Yeh, I've only just seen this! Looks to be a good replacement - and means you can buy a set of Group n mounts for like £150!.
moxy89
21st April 2009, 14:05
ross could you fit them ????? you be doing loads this summer ordering coilover saturday if the pay is ok....
AlexB
21st April 2009, 14:29
just go to the group a semi rigid kit tbh
it doesnt vibrate that badly and i cant move my engine at all in my bay
its ace
i love them
TU-Tuning
21st April 2009, 14:45
WOH spoox havnt been selling the ECU one for long then have they? Never seen it on there n i didnt look too long ago!
This the first mainstream GRP N ECU mount then?
Only other one is the Pugsport one, but you need to weld in some little metal buffers.
The Vibratechnics one is straight fit other than having to drill a 12mm hole in the mount strut. Its a very well made bit of kit. Its the only one worth getting from them though imo, the gearbox one looks similar and its a bit overkill with the box mount being so simple.
Il let you know what theyre like by the end of the week hopefully :drink:
AlexB
21st April 2009, 14:49
Only other one is the Pugsport one, but you need to weld in some little metal buffers.
you can glue them with some 2 part epoxy if you want
its hat ive done with mine in the 106
TU-Tuning
21st April 2009, 14:50
Ive read they come off very quickly though when glued
raunchz
21st April 2009, 15:05
i used liquid metal on mine and they've been rock solid for around 10k now.
AlexB
21st April 2009, 15:19
Ive read they come off very quickly though when glued
not seen that personally
seems fine glued
i know of some lads who just sit them in place
there isnt really space for them to fall out
moxy89
21st April 2009, 15:33
looking foe engine mounts atm,heard there is 3 correct me if im wrong where can i get them ? would i be supplied with the 1 or all 3 thanks for the help need to order some
Mochachino
21st April 2009, 15:37
looking foe engine mounts atm,heard there is 3 correct me if im wrong where can i get them ? would i be supplied with the 1 or all 3 thanks for the help need to order some
theyre all separate on the links bens given you.
If you get the kit for around £180 then you get the lot.
AlexB
21st April 2009, 15:41
look up aron on here hes got a full kit unused for sale iirc
Colin
21st April 2009, 15:45
GMC Motorsport will help
Drago
21st April 2009, 16:36
GMC sell both of the pugsport kits aswell as the vibra technics "fast road" kit.
Just fitted a complete set of vibra technics, a very well made bit of kit. Supposed to be slightly stiffer than group n's. Certainly wouldnt go any stiffer without seam welding the engine mounts themselves.
TU-Tuning
21st April 2009, 17:36
GMC wont split their kits, which is fair enough, but they're 200 and 210 for the Vibras and the Pugsports respectively iirc. Plus postage which is £15.
So in fairness unless you want all of one set to be a brand whore the links I gave are the best
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