Peugeot 106 Gti Engine In a VTS

[mrjayt]

my mate paid 2k for his saxo vts, mint condition, absolutely mint, had it a month and slammed it into a deep puddle and f*cked the engine. hes sold it to me cheap and ive got a 106 gti engine and ive stuck it in.

fits like a glove everythings near enough the same, but at the moment i need to replace the altenator belt and the top coolant hose doesnt match the same for both engines as the vts had 2 smaller pipes going off to the oil filter.

thing is ive tried turning it over and all sounds good but not starting, this is with battery fully charged and the hose missing, but i dont see why it wouldnt start.

would the ecu/immoboliser cause problems with me doing a straight swap with the engine?

[mrjayt]

would the plate off the vts engine behind the oil filter fit onto the gti engine?

[gouldy87]

arnt the wiring looms different ?

[mrjayt]

nah all wires have gone straight in

[AlexB]

arnt the wiring looms different ?

swap the looms
i did and have a saxo motor in my gti

[mrjayt]

swap the looms
i did and have a saxo motor in my gti

but all of the plugs for my saxo loom have fitted the gti engine, they were both 99 t reg

[gouldy87]

swap the looms
i did and have a saxo motor in my gti

aaaahhhhhh touche:y:

[yr51ocw]

which ecu are you using?

[mrjayt]

which ecu are you using?


original ecu from the vts

[mrjayt]

ive read on here something about needing the ecu unlocked??

[AlexB]

ive read on here something about needing the ecu unlocked??

not if hes using the cars origonal one though

[Scott-jarvis]

My VTR loom and ECU is running my gti engine, lol

[Proffitt]

My VTR loom and ECU is running my gti engine, lol

Hahaha lol...you serious?

Like Alix said: you need to change the looms. I think the 106 GTi loom is different to the VTS one!

[mrjayt]

ive read alot of people used the vts loom with a gti engine? aint had a problem with that in that respect as all of the plugs have been wired up, but like i said i dont see why it aint firing up but its turning over so just seems like an immobiliser issue to me

the ecu is the original one from the vts and wiring loom all ive done is transplanted the engines.

[Scott-jarvis]

Hahaha lol...you serious?

Like Alix said: you need to change the looms. I think the 106 GTi loom is different to the VTS one!

Yeh im being serious, mind you i got an engine management light on, and with the engine light off it runs ruffer than with the light on, lol,
It runs fine everything works, so i dont mind, lol

[AlexB]

ive read alot of people used the vts loom with a gti engine? aint had a problem with that in that respect as all of the plugs have been wired up, but like i said i dont see why it aint firing up but its turning over so just seems like an immobiliser issue to me

the ecu is the original one from the vts and wiring loom all ive done is transplanted the engines.

few questions then
is the fuel pump running?
is the starter turning?

for the first try and just run a live to it temporariy and run the car
if it works wire in a switched live

if the starters not turning it could be a bad earth from the gearbox to the loom or even to the car itself
or a bum starter/solenoid

[mrjayt]

few questions then
is the fuel pump running?
is the starter turning?

for the first try and just run a live to it temporariy and run the car
if it works wire in a switched live

if the starters not turning it could be a bad earth from the gearbox to the loom or even to the car itself
or a bum starter/solenoid

starters turning and fuel pump is going, like i said its turnin over fine sounds spot on jus wont fire up

[AlexB]

got spark??

imobiliser cuts the fuel pump so its definatly an engine/wiring issue

[stu-n-shell]

if you dont have the top coolant hose connected then it wont start as there will be no compression in the engine. any one feel free to correct me but i think that could be the answer but i dont know much about mechanics.

[AlexB]

if you dont have the top coolant hose connected then it wont start as there will be no compression in the engine. any one feel free to correct me but i think that could be the answer but i dont know much about mechanics.

rad hoses in now way effect the compression
you can start the car breifly with no coolant system at all if you wish but itll get hot quick lol

[stu-n-shell]

ok cool was just an idea as i said dont know much about mechanics.

[mrjayt]

i changed the flywheel sensor for the vts one instead of the gti one and it fired up straight away, one happy me lol

[Olly]

good job :y: probs Wouldnt have been immobiliser if the light wasnt on

[PORKYSBITZ]

I have a gti engine in my vts and it fired first time but i used the vts loom

[greenman]

Have you connected the fuel lines correctly? Double check the white and green ones have been 'clicked' in. Have you check the inertia switch? Press it down. Is the fuel pump definitely priming (a whirring noise when you turn the key one click) .

[mrjayt]

its cool mate it was the flywheel sensor, changed that for the one off the vts engine n its goin fine now

[greenman]

its cool mate it was the flywheel sensor, changed that for the one off the vts engine n its goin fine now

Just read that! Doh!

[mrjayt]

lol no worries, any help is well appreciated