View Full Version : engine turnin over but not startin!!!
johnlambert
1st July 2009, 17:50
vts conversion being done!!
its jus finished but not starting!!
is the ecu locked?????
Mochachino
1st July 2009, 17:52
Probably. Was it unlocked? You used ignition barrel, transponder and imobilisor ECU from the VTS car?
BLACK-VTR
1st July 2009, 17:52
hey mate im having this problem aswell occassionally, does the ignition symbol on the dashboard flash when you turn the key? because thats what mines doing.
johnlambert
1st July 2009, 17:54
hey mate im having this problem aswell occassionally, does the ignition symbol on the dashboard flash when you turn the key? because thats what mines doing.
i have no idea i haven seen the car yet !!! :wall::wall::wall:
johnlambert
1st July 2009, 17:54
matt holmes sold me the engine and said the ecu was unlocked and i believe him so i dunno!
raunchz
1st July 2009, 17:59
sounds like ECU is locked as said in the other thread. Get it unlocked - or could be an earth problem
johnlambert
1st July 2009, 18:03
sounds like ECU is locked as said in the other thread. Get it unlocked - or could be an earth problem
why would he sell me a locked ecu :wall:
problem is im in dublin!!
:wall:
raunchz
1st July 2009, 18:09
why would he sell me a locked ecu :wall:
problem is im in dublin!!
:wall:
Maybe you have locked it when trying to start it - you remove the immobiliser box from under the dash? As an unlocked ECU won't work with the box xtill plugged in, unless its the matching box for the ECU.
johnlambert
1st July 2009, 18:20
yeah i just read up on that. i didnt do that personally!!
is there anyway round it if this happened???
other than sending the ecu off?
raunchz
1st July 2009, 18:22
maYbe unplug the box and see it it'll start.
Mochachino
1st July 2009, 18:22
Nope, you have to get it unlocked again. Its a imobilisor problem, so it will be this.
williamsvts
1st July 2009, 18:27
i dont get how so many people keep making this mistake when its brought up so many times.
raunchz
1st July 2009, 18:29
i dont get how so many people keep making this mistake when its brought up so many times.
Agreed, 15 mins on here would have stopped this.
johnlambert
1st July 2009, 21:31
well the mistake wasn made with the immob i found out!!
its either the ecu isnt unlocked or a loom problem
http://i578.photobucket.com/albums/ss226/john_lambert2009/DSC00791.jpg
the yellow and blue wire?whats that for?
Is the engine getting fuel? Do them wires go to the fuel cut off switch? If there isnt a plug connected to the fuel cut off and there free, would be my guess. does the fuel pump prime then u turn the key?
ryanmt
1st July 2009, 22:14
They all goto live, it should start with those connected. If not i can unlock the ecu for you.
johnlambert
1st July 2009, 22:23
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Is the engine getting fuel? Do them wires go to the fuel cut off switch? If there isnt a plug connected to the fuel cut off and there free, would be my guess. does the fuel pump prime then u turn the key?
the fuel pump does nt prime!!
not sure but i think the wires go to the fuse box?
johnlambert
1st July 2009, 22:24
They all goto live, it should start with those connected. If not i can unlock the ecu for you.
how much to unlock plus shipping to and from ire??
liam-vtrmk1
1st July 2009, 22:29
I had thit problem when i rebuilt my vtr engine, it turned out to just be an earth that i had forgot to tighten, so check loom for unearthed earths.
Check youve plugged the fuel cut off in then. Have yo checked the fuel pump fuse? IIRC the wires to it are yellow and green (or bluey)
johnlambert
1st July 2009, 22:38
I had thit problem when i rebuilt my vtr engine, it turned out to just be an earth that i had forgot to tighten, so check loom for unearthed earths.
id love if it were that simpe.
ill get him to check tomo:y:
ryanmt
1st July 2009, 22:40
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Is the engine getting fuel? Do them wires go to the fuel cut off switch? If there isnt a plug connected to the fuel cut off and there free, would be my guess. does the fuel pump prime then u turn the key?
the fuel pump does nt prime!!
not sure but i think the wires go to the fuse box?
It is that simple, chop those plugs off and connect em to the battery... it should fire straight up.
johnlambert
1st July 2009, 22:47
It is that simple, chop those plugs off and connect em to the battery... it should fire straight up.
really?
ill try that tomo.
and just say that doesn work wat then?
ryanmt
1st July 2009, 22:50
ill sort out your ecu as long as you cover the extra to post to ireland
johnlambert
1st July 2009, 22:53
ill sort out your ecu as long as you cover the extra to post to ireland
cool beans
iw_laurence
1st July 2009, 22:57
my car not starting ended up being the plug that goes onto the injector rail to tell it when to squirt had worked its way loose....
johnlambert
2nd July 2009, 11:37
my car not starting ended up being the plug that goes onto the injector rail to tell it when to squirt had worked its way loose....
just got a message off the guy..
he said
i have the car fueling but its stil not firing.at this stage im leaning more towards the ecu if it even got damaged on the way over.
iw_laurence
2nd July 2009, 23:36
mine was fuelling into the injectors, but not firing out of them, ask him if he's checking the actual injectors or the delivery tube into the injectors....
johnlambert
3rd July 2009, 14:39
too late now!!
hes put the 1.4 back in .
pic below...what should hav been
http://i578.photobucket.com/albums/ss226/john_lambert2009/1a.jpg
he said the ecu is locked but i dont think it is.
any way of checkin ??
youve put the other one back in cause it wouldnt fire????? crazy...
Can check the ecu by putting it on another vts, (remember to remove the immobiliser box under the dash though, else it deffo will get locked.)
furio09
3rd July 2009, 21:03
how much was he charging for this conversion
ryanmt
3rd July 2009, 21:12
thats the wrong ecu on that vts engine! no wonder it wont start that wont be helping things.
johnlambert
29th September 2009, 03:02
thats the wrong ecu on that vts engine! no wonder it wont start that wont be helping things.
late bump!!
but how do you know?can you explain?
ryanmt
29th September 2009, 09:34
its got grooves in it, its a sagem SL96 ecu probably. Theyre crap and were fitted to the 306's and things like that but never the 1.6 16v.
It should look like this and have the following code on it 1ap.41
http://cabletiemotorsport.com/gallery/gallery/thumbcache/large_faefc8a9349fa0db8726f0e90e48cc53.jpg
johnlambert
29th September 2009, 12:36
its got grooves in it, its a sagem SL96 ecu probably. Theyre crap and were fitted to the 306's and things like that but never the 1.6 16v.
It should look like this and have the following code on it 1ap.41
http://cabletiemotorsport.com/gallery/gallery/thumbcache/large_faefc8a9349fa0db8726f0e90e48cc53.jpg
fuck!!!
ive been without my vts engine for nearly 4 months now:wall:
looks like i may be odering a new ecu
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