Peugeot V10, Honda V8 or possibly Puegot V12 twin turbo conversion is it possible?

[Sophia_Bush]

Hi

I heard from my mate a proper shit hot citroen mechanic that a v10 fits in a saxo? is this easy to do? do you think a turbo will fit aswell? I was thinking of doing it for the lolz because i know this vtr and he reckons that beats 16vs is it true?

http://www.gurneyflap.com/Resources/DSC_2779.jpg

thanks:homme::P:wall:

[LeeM]

banned :P

[AXracing]

Me mate told me 'v12 will do in with no other mods. Stick 4 turbos on and it really go
:beerme:

[kraigleeder]

lmao you need ballbag swingers if you want over 1000bhp :P

[dannygti]

why bother gav?? 8v has more torque

[lukeyyyyyyy21]

Looks like the 1995 engine used in the Jordan in F1.

[lyndon]

I think it would fit easy, although the bugatti veyron engine apparently will go in sideways and make it rear wheel drive, with no mods, Just need to chop the middle of the car out, piece of piss

Wouldn't keep up with the pimped up 1.1 rudeboys though :(

[TU-Tuning]

Deja Vu? Annual prank this now? lol

[Sophia_Bush]

Deja Vu? Annual prank this now? lol

well you know it ben, this is just to high light the amount of turbo questions that get asked daily and can x y z fit in lol

really danny no way so i will need 10 turbos for each cylinder to get as much torque as an 8v vtr?

[AlexB]

my vtr would still beat you gav!!

ive got lotus seats for the extra 902 bhp :D

[mischief]

surly the car will just flip on itself with that much torque going through the rear wheels

[AlexB]

leave it front driven then :D

[Ari]

If I was looking for a mental engine I'd probably go for the Hartley 2.8 or 3 litre all alloy V8, probably the lightest, most compact V8 available weighing only 200 lbs and putting out 400-500bhp spec dependent, also revs to 10k. :D


SPECIFICATIONS H1V8:

75° odd fire V8
2.8 LITER, 170 cu. in. displacement (3.0 liter optional)
84mm Bore X 63mm Stroke (67 stroke optional)
4 cams, 32 valves via internal silent chain
530mm wide x 485mm long x 530mm high
400HP @ 10,000 rpm with stock street cams (higher spec, 500bhp)
245 ft-lbs torque @ 7500 rpm
200 lbs engine weight
Billet nitrided steel 180° crank
4340 H-beam con-rods with ARP bolts
Billet 6061-T6 aluminum crankcase
Dry sump 0il system with 4 stage pump
7.25" or 5.5" Twin disc clutch
DTA S80 full sequential ECU
Unique cylinder offset and cam drive arrangement yields a compact design- Patent No. 7,168,405


See the pics, specs and dimensions here.. http://www.h1v8.com/page/page/1562069.htm

[Mochachino]

Can you fit a chip on the ECU or is it better to get a remap on this V10?

[TU-Tuning]

well you know it ben, this is just to high light the amount of turbo questions that get asked daily and can x y z fit in lol

really danny no way so i will need 10 turbos for each cylinder to get as much torque as an 8v vtr?

lol yeah very true :drink:

[redsaxo22]

will this fit the v10? i was thinkin it would make it as fast as a westie

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Electric-Supercharger-air-intake-upgrade-K-N-induction_W0QQitemZ130318039161QQcmdZViewItemQQptZ UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM?hash=item1e578f7 879&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=65%3A12%7C66%3A2%7C39%3A1%7C72%3A1689%7C 293%3A1%7C294%3A50

[Andy_K]

Can you fit a chip on the ECU or is it better to get a remap on this V10?

remap may affect the performance of the ported throttle body. Stick with a chip imho :p

[scot-ish]

Can you fit a chip on the ECU or is it better to get a remap on this V10?


theres chips on ebay, easy fit, work's well with a wee bit vinegar aswell

[Ari]

Can you fit a chip on the ECU or is it better to get a remap on this V10?

This thread is getting a bit silly but for talking sake... you'd need very high specced standalone aftermarket ECU to run an F1 engine and extensive mapping. These things are built to such high tolerances that they have to be connected to an engine 'life support' machine which pumps hot oil round it etc etc, keeps all internal temps within certain parameters to stop it seizing and reads its vital signs, only if they are all within spec will it be safe to start.

[scot-ish]

it was silly from the start mate, that was the point of it lol

[Ari]

Yeah, I skimmed over it and at 1st I was like wtf? I didnt have Gav down as one of 'em' lol. I read back over the whole thread since posting before realising it was a total piss take lol..

Got me.. Good one Gav! :clapping:

[bullit]

ive already d0ne it. was quite simple :y:

[Sophia_Bush]

really does it run on urea?

[Mystic]

IIRC bullit ran it on Vpower, we all told him it wouldnt make it any faster but he said he could feel the difference between that & the 95ron from Tesco. Just wasting his money though i think, you can get double clubcard points at tesco.

[Aron]

This thread is getting a bit silly but for talking sake... you'd need very high specced standalone aftermarket ECU to run an F1 engine and extensive mapping. These things are built to such high tolerances that they have to be connected to an engine 'life support' machine which pumps hot oil round it etc etc, keeps all internal temps within certain parameters to stop it seizing and reads its vital signs, only if they are all within spec will it be safe to start.

i think he thought this was a sersouis thread.

[Ari]

i think he thought this was a sersouis thread.


I did at 1st.. :D but then you do get some really daft ones on here which are intended to be serious so forgive me!

[Sophia_Bush]

a lad with a furio said i need a supercharger on there to keep up with him apparantly ari vatanen built his enigne?

[Ari]

a lad with a furio said i need a supercharger on there to keep up with him apparantly ari vatanen built his enigne?

Nah.. he's talking shit.. I stopped doing rebuilds 15 years ago.

[Mochachino]

I did at 1st.. :D but then you do get some really daft ones on here which are intended to be serious so forgive me!

Thanks for that lol! I aint that daft lol

[Ari]

Thanks for that lol! I aint that daft lol

Sorry bud! :D

[bullit]

by placing the engine 0n the r00f it made the j0b a l0t easier. this als0 saved me splashing 0ut 0n a c0ld air feed.

[Sparco_Tom]

i heard it uses the original loom and ecu??? also engine mounts are the same tooo bloody good conversion i say. cheap too all for under £100

[dannygti]

the only problem is, you have to clean and port the throttle body otherwise it wont tick over....

[bullit]

thats c0rrect t0m. there was tw0 ways 0f d0ing the c0nversi0n, either strap it t0 the r00f like i did 0r cut the engine in half. 0ne half sits 0n the existing m0unts and the 0ther is thr0wn in the back.

[JamesR]

What is that engined pictured on the first post out of :wacko:

[Sophia_Bush]

ah dam no way ari, i will have to give hannu Mikkola a call see if he can do it

yeah could do it that way bullit man

danny 1 tb gutted i thought there was 12!

[chriswoodward]

funny how the nubes take it seriously

[AlexB]

What is that engined pictured on the first post out of :wacko:

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Jordan_Peugeot_F1.jpg

[raunchz]

How do I unlock the Ecu? I tried to start it with my key and it just turned over

[bullit]

y0u need the c0rrect key

[dannygti]

How do I unlock the Ecu? I tried to start it with my key and it just turned over

you have to press the milage reset button 3 times mate :y:

[AlexB]

what if you have a keypad immobiliser??

can i just reset it to my birthday?

[Ste]

If you havnt got VTEC in it then theres no point, it would be more cost effective to fit a VTS with a K&N and a cherry bomb.

[Mochachino]

what if you have a keypad immobiliser??

can i just reset it to my birthday?


You need the password mate. It should be on another VT of the same colour, you have to measure the difference between the arch at the tyre, devide it by 3 and thats the password. Put that in your keypad.

[Sophia_Bush]

Ste - v8 VTEC y0

http://www.gurneyflap.com/Resources/DSC_7418.jpg

so will the above work with the standard 1.0 ecu?

[Mochachino]

Nah mate have a search this questions asked everyday.

But you can replace the 1.0 injectors with 1.6vts injectors to make it a 1.6 though :y:, will need a remap though, and rear tyres replacing.

[dannygti]

Ste - v8 VTEC y0

http://www.gurneyflap.com/Resources/DSC_7418.jpg

so will the above work with the standard 1.0 ecu?

on a serious note,, holy fook :panic:

check out the stand off injectors.

[Shak]

i used to have the fastest saxo about when i had my overhead sponge valve fitted, but someone stole my engine. so now im just running a honda vision engine with a catering nitrous kit.

[TU-Tuning]

That engine is actually porn. I feel dirty for being so attracted to an engine

[141chris141]

jus drop 4 turbos and supercharge a 1.1 ;) smoke evryfin ;)

[sliderz]

any thing can be done just need next weeks lottery numbers

[titchster]

Just for a split second I thought, fuck, Gav's gonna do something mental. Then realised he was taking the piss.

Gutted tbh.

[Ashleyp]

needs lowering










on vts wheels

[Sophia_Bush]

What about this peugeot v12 it has 2 turbos faster than my blads 1.4 aii?

http://www.gurneyflap.com/Resources/DSC_7683.jpg
http://www.gurneyflap.com/Resources/DSC_7694.jpg

More of the VTEC enigne aswell what ya think?

http://www.gurneyflap.com/Resources/DSC_7411.jpg
http://www.gurneyflap.com/Resources/DSC_7419.jpg
http://www.gurneyflap.com/Resources/DSC_7421.jpg

[VTurboR]

What about this peugeot v12 it has 2 turbos faster than my blads 1.4 aii?

http://www.gurneyflap.com/Resources/DSC_7683.jpg
http://www.gurneyflap.com/Resources/DSC_7694.jpg

More of the VTEC enigne aswell what ya think?

http://www.gurneyflap.com/Resources/DSC_7411.jpg
http://www.gurneyflap.com/Resources/DSC_7419.jpg
http://www.gurneyflap.com/Resources/DSC_7421.jpg

that is porn:oops:

[TU-Tuning]

I want them in my front room.

Ill give you ten dowwah and a soggy biscuit?

[KamRacing]

on a slightly more serious note. Graeme was offered an aston martin V12 engine for his racecar. Only £12k just for the engine!
£6k bought a freshly rolled Honda S2000 so that won...

[lyndon]

Only thing to do is fit some small steelies on the front to cope with the weight and the lower height, that way it looks like a drag car too!!

Sick tbh...

Big spoiler needed though, counteracts the extra power and the wrong keypad code...

Lexus lights work pretty well so i've been told, also helps with the ecu unlocking problem and gives even more powaaah!

[raunchz]

those engines are works of art - they dont belong in cars!

If I was rich enough I'd buy one and turn it into a coffee table so I could eat my breakfast off it every day

[Aron]

ok looking at that honda engine i think i just came in my thongs a little

[KamRacing]

If I was looking for a mental engine I'd probably go for the Hartley 2.8 or 3 litre all alloy V8, probably the lightest, most compact V8 available weighing only 200 lbs and putting out 400-500bhp spec dependent, also revs to 10k. :D


SPECIFICATIONS H1V8:

75° odd fire V8
2.8 LITER, 170 cu. in. displacement (3.0 liter optional)
84mm Bore X 63mm Stroke (67 stroke optional)
4 cams, 32 valves via internal silent chain
530mm wide x 485mm long x 530mm high
400HP @ 10,000 rpm with stock street cams (higher spec, 500bhp)
245 ft-lbs torque @ 7500 rpm
200 lbs engine weight
Billet nitrided steel 180° crank
4340 H-beam con-rods with ARP bolts
Billet 6061-T6 aluminum crankcase
Dry sump 0il system with 4 stage pump
7.25" or 5.5" Twin disc clutch
DTA S80 full sequential ECU
Unique cylinder offset and cam drive arrangement yields a compact design- Patent No. 7,168,405


See the pics, specs and dimensions here.. http://www.h1v8.com/page/page/1562069.htm

looked at that for my 309. Then i looked at the price :p

[Sophia_Bush]

so will any of the above be faster than a 3.0 v6 in a saxo?

[Sophia_Bush]

do didn't really get an answer to this, will 1.0 cams work and would there be any benefit of fit a gam socket with intercooler?

[Mallyauto86]

being stupid f you got the cash the 406 coupe 3.0 V6 fits in a paxo if you have the money its bin done in france just for info . . . also a few saxo 2L turbo's TCT swapzzzz

[raunchz]

being stupid f you got the cash the 406 coupe 3.0 V6 fits in a paxo if you have the money its bin done in france just for info . . . also a few saxo 2L turbo's TCT swapzzzz

...... or a twin turbo peugeot v12 :S I know which one I'd rather fit, just not sure on insurance and declaring it ? :boxing:

[Mallyauto86]

...... or a twin turbo peugeot v12 :S I know which one I'd rather fit, just not sure on insurance and declaring it ? :boxing:

take the piss mate i canz proove it :hug:

heres the 2 liter turbo one : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JA9wgP3Heg

engine out of a 806 TCT . . . oh sorry iu speak french and understand what hes saying lol

but yeh its a TCT engine most comun in 205 gti swops

[Mallyauto86]

and if a v6 will fit a c2 pretty sure it would fit a saxo . . .you know they did a v8 twingo so anything is possible . . Link :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nIzgk5FnqzI

[raunchz]

take the piss mate i canz proove it :hug:

heres the 2 liter turbo one : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JA9wgP3Heg

engine out of a 806 TCT . . . oh sorry iu speak french and understand what hes saying lol

but yeh its a TCT engine most comun in 205 gti swops

It's only 240bhp :S people been getting more than that on the 16v engine.

I can get the rough jist of what he's saying :oops:

[Sophia_Bush]

yeah but if I fit an intercooler to my saxo will it make me look ard and get the schoolies? think the v12 would go better with an ebay chipz lyk?

[Mallyauto86]

It's only 240bhp :S people been getting more than that on the 16v engine.

I can get the rough jist of what he's saying :oops:

yeh its 240hp but these engines are only 8v can be converted to 16v's tho and some french 205's with them in have had over 450hp. . .

[raunchz]

yeh its 240hp but these engines are only 8v can be converted to 16v's tho and some french 205's with them in have had over 450hp. . .

That's a better figure !!! It'd be worth the hassle then tbh.

Saying that though, I bet 240bhp is plenty fast enough for the road !!

[Mallyauto86]

my mates runing 350hp on his in his 205GTI on stock internals and hes getting bored with it

[Sophia_Bush]

so I've concluded since going the v8 conversion and fitting 2 cam from a 1.1 and running the engine on fud juice and not oil I've mad 850bhp oh running a 4 speed ax box aswell

[mlawlan69]

so I've concluded since going the v8 conversion and fitting 2 cam from a 1.1 and running the engine on fud juice and not oil I've mad 850bhp oh running a 4 speed ax box aswell

ha

ultimate sleeper that mate !!

http://www.jappower.com/img/09fe6b758e2532a0efce718b9e720032.jpg

[blackie_2k5]

doesnt handle very well... too heavy, its nice siting in the rear though :D

[Davo106]

My mate has one of these in his 1.1. BLOODY RAPID.

[RDKells]

I heard if you used diesel init, it wud go up by 68.49304hp :homme:

[Slugshead]

I got 4 of those in my spax0, one for each wheel, an ebay supercharger on each tb too ;)

[RDKells]

I got 4 of those in my spax0, one for each wheel, an ebay supercharger on each tb too ;)

IZ it runnin on diezel doe?

[Slugshead]

IZ it runnin on diezel doe?

red ;)

[rhydstar]

do it !

[Sophia_Bush]

prickle told me to use vtr cams and a 1.1 box

[blackie_2k5]

Yeah I heard that too!

Pm him

[Jay_]

Prickle is halfway through this conversion isn't he?

[hazlo]

hahahaha!

[BarneyB]

If you go on youtube theres someone whos crammed in 2 engines into a saxo... thats interesting...