Knife attack - on a friend

[JimoVTR]

http://www.thisisgloucestershire.co.uk/tewkesbury/tewkesburynews/Court-verdict-failed-knife-victim/article-1166107-detail/article.html

discuss....

mainly Guthries sentance - pathetic if you ask me

[Freakin_Sweeet]

Shocking tbh!

[Viper]

i agree, it should have been longer, but i can see that they have given him a short sentence due to the PTS.

[JimoVTR]

He hasn't been sent down at all

[mattman1990]

can't believe he got off so lightly...there's plenty of other ex soldiers out their suffering with post traumatic stress disorder who don't hold knives to peoples throats...not suprised the victim feels let down by the system

[barrett]

two sides to it:

your mates: yes its an outrageous thing to happen and you would want to see that man go down.

the guy who did it: suffering a mental disorder, not able to control his thoughts and prob has voices telling him to do stuff, whilst prob still thinking he is in afgan with all the stuff going on in his head.

the bigger point is our government. the state they are bringing the troops back home in and not offering them all the help and support and councilling to be able to return back to the community is just plain not on.

[JimoVTR]

the guy who did it has had many similar things before his trip to afgahn.

in the same year at school as my dad and has always been an asshole

[ricksimmonds]

the guy who did it has had many similar things before his trip to afgahn.

in the same year at school as my dad and has always been an asshole

what you have said is true of alot of serving and ex service men. Many of the people that join infantry army units are the 'type' of people that will have conducted this sort of behavouir irrespective of whether or not they have served in a warzoe

obviously PTS will be a contributary factor towards this sort of behavouir and may make someone more likely to commit this sort of offence but it cannot be held as an outright excuse as if what they have done is not wrong

however, i am not convinced that danny is completely innocent. he looks like the tasty type to me and i saw that comment about him spiking girls drinks

[JimoVTR]

what you have said is true of alot of serving and ex service men. Many of the people that join infantry army units are the 'type' of people that will have conducted this sort of behavouir irrespective of whether or not they have served in a warzoe

obviously PTS will be a contributary factor towards this sort of behavouir and may make someone more likely to commit this sort of offence but it cannot be held as an outright excuse as if what they have done is not wrong

however, i am not convinced that danny is completely innocent. he looks like the tasty type to me and i saw that comment about him spiking girls drinks

That spiking is not true... Iv known him since before I can remember, he's one of the nicest lads you'll ever meet

[Bound]

Pathetic, Copyright laws - £100,000 fine, up to five years (e.g. pirate bay owners - 1 year), Hold a knife to someones kneck or beat someone up £50 fine, let of, no sentence.

The system is broken.

[VTR-Chris]

what you have said is true of alot of serving and ex service men. Many of the people that join infantry army units are the 'type' of people that will have conducted this sort of behavouir irrespective of whether or not they have served in a warzoe



dont chat shit

im in the infantry and none of the boys i know go round carryin knives or would even dream of stabbin someone

[juice_josh]

its the excuse all these criminals use now, they stab/kill someone then they claim they are mentaly unstable there-for get off with a lighter sentance or go to somewere else except prison!

[MikeYost]

mad.. ent fair to get off so lightly. Weird to have this so close to home too

[Ste]

If he did a stint in prison it probably wouldn't help stop him re-offending. He should however spend a mandatory minimum sentence in a mental institue or until they deem him not to be a threat to society.

A Curfew is pathetic. I hope your mate gets over it not exactly been helped by the courts.

[ricksimmonds]

dont chat shit

im in the infantry and none of the boys i know go round carryin knives or would even dream of stabbin someone

it isnt shit atal mate, stop getting defensive over the fact that alot of army personal will have been involved in violent/criminal acts before joining up

alot of people join the army from lower social classes etc as a way of getting out, they are often no angels themselves

myself included, im in the middle of applying for the army and i have been convicted of violent offences in the past, i am currently on bail for another, so im not chatting shit, im chatting sense and im a walking example of this

im not saying infantry blokes go round with knives threatening to kill people but by the very nature of their job, they be enclined to adapt an aggressive demina

i have a few friends in the military so i no from experience when i say they are very anti social, little respect for 'civvies' and like to spit on women etc for fun.......

[stompin-sarah]

thats ridiculous......

makes me mad the fact that in this day and age how many people are getting away with stuff simply becasue they say......


"i have a mental illness"


thats total bollocks....

heard it the other week on the news when a 16 year old lad killed a baby he was looking after..... he had a mental illness........

it does NOT make it alright....

[JimoVTR]

Imight use the same thing when I go to courte for GBH

[stompin-sarah]

yeah do try jimo... you could be in with a very good chance of getting off :)

[VTR-Chris]

it isnt shit atal mate, stop getting defensive over the fact that alot of army personal will have been involved in violent/criminal acts before joining up

alot of people join the army from lower social classes etc as a way of getting out, they are often no angels themselves

myself included, im in the middle of applying for the army and i have been convicted of violent offences in the past, i am currently on bail for another, so im not chatting shit, im chatting sense and im a walking example of this

im not saying infantry blokes go round with knives threatening to kill people but by the very nature of their job, they be enclined to adapt an aggressive demina

i have a few friends in the military so i no from experience when i say they are very anti social, little respect for 'civvies' and like to spit on women etc for fun.......

its called squaddie mentality

ok we hate civvies, have an aggressive job but dont tar everyone with the same brush mate

if you're on bail for another violent offence i suggest you discontinue with ya application, guarenteed you'll get knocked back

theres a waitin period you'll have to wait to show you wont re-offend, or in some cases wait until there spent

[Lloydie]

Justice system of this country is discusting

[scot-ish]

its called squaddie mentality

ok we hate civvies, have an aggressive job but dont tar everyone with the same brush mate

if you're on bail for another violent offence i suggest you discontinue with ya application, guarenteed you'll get knocked back

theres a waitin period you'll have to wait to show you wont re-offend, or in some cases wait until there spent

they cut your application themselves if your on bail, and tell you to come back in 12 months, happened to my bro before he joined the parra's

[arsenal_69r]

ridiculous

[ricksimmonds]

its called squaddie mentality

ok we hate civvies, have an aggressive job but dont tar everyone with the same brush mate

if you're on bail for another violent offence i suggest you discontinue with ya application, guarenteed you'll get knocked back

theres a waitin period you'll have to wait to show you wont re-offend, or in some cases wait until there spent

im just going to keep quiet, it only asked if you have any unspent or pending convictions on the application and at the time i didnt, so technically, im not lieing lol

[goodall3518]

thats fucking shocking.

[VTR-Chris]

im just going to keep quiet, it only asked if you have any unspent or pending convictions on the application and at the time i didnt, so technically, im not lieing lol

that will deffo bite you in the foot

they WILL find out mate

joinin the forces aint just a standard criminal record check, you need security clearance and vetting first

remember theres a LOT of sensitive info and stuff you will be workin with


tell them... if u dont, and when they find out, because they will... you wont be allowed in, ever

[smiith]

Was one here a few weeks ago to a lad i used to go to school with...

He was driving in town, and some local lads told him to take em home, and he was scared so he did, go to there house, and they said no we meant scarborough (25 miles away)

Halfway there pulled a knife on him, put him in the back of the car, and went joy riding in it.

In the end they smashed the car through the wall, and the lad who got the knife out got away with it, because his 2 friends who got in the car with him, said the lad gave him the keys, and told him to do what he wants because he didnt like the car.

So they got away with it, and the poor lad ended up getting points and paying loadsa fines for the car.

[JimoVTR]

doors locked, speed off.

Id rather have 3points and £60 fine than all that aggro